Flight 587's NTSB data recorder playback

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bits44
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An interesting report of court testimony and statements made during the trial.

Form your own opinions, somebody is not telling the whole truth.

http://www.crashdehabsheim.net/CRenglish%20phot.pdf
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To stay on topic, there was rudder imput by the Pilot before the loud thump of the Rudder breaking away.

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Looking at the Nat.Geo re-creation, the first officer put in a series of fairly severe full opposit rudder inputs causing the plane to fishtail.

Although it was poor airmanship (pilot did not seem to understand what forces his actions were causing, and forgot that airplanes usually correct themselves when left alone), it is a pity Airbus did not have a torque limiting device to avoid such inputs.

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achace wrote:
Although it was poor airmanship (pilot did not seem to understand what forces his actions were causing, and forgot that airplanes usually correct themselves when left alone), it is a pity Airbus did not have a torque limiting device to avoid such inputs.

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The aircraft manufacturers learned from every incident.
This kind of limitation was already implemented on the "computer assisted pilot"
For the older aircrafts, they have made the neccesary to avoid this kind of problem

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Rudder deflection on an Airbus is proportionnal to the A/C speed

Low speed - High deflection

High speed-CRZ speed - low deflection

this being done through the RTLU (Rudder Travel Limiter Unit)

Therefore for a same pedal input, at 180 knots or at 300 knots, the rudder motion will be different.

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