Yes I guess so. Flights from Istanbul and Ankara to Brussels will certainly increase.regi wrote:good one Jan.
I think that Turkish Airlines will start to double its operations to Brussels after the latest incident with that greek crew.
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De facto the main-office of TK is at Yesilköy - being on the European side of the Bosphorus ,TK has the right to call themselves a European Airline.jan_olieslagers wrote:I am afraid not everybody agrees to calling TK an airline from Europe.xantho wrote:Turkish Airlines would be the only alirline from Europe providing connections to Pakistan.
IATA Europe includes geographical Europe and Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia."IATA Europe", as defined by International Air Transport Association, includes not only the islands of the Mediterranean (Malta, Cyprus, etc.) but indeed also Morocco, Tunisia, and Algeria. (A definition dating from post WW II, when France ...)beaucaire wrote:De facto the main-office of TK is at Yesilköy - being on the European side of the Bosphorus ,TK has the right to call themselves a European Airline.jan_olieslagers wrote:I am afraid not everybody agrees to calling TK an airline from Europe.xantho wrote:Turkish Airlines would be the only alirline from Europe providing connections to Pakistan.
The definition means that also the Turkish part of Cyprus is Europe, J-O.
The TK 737-800 flight to KHI goes from IST, Ataturk (aka Yesilkoy)
As a big Panam fan I used PA 001 many times to fly to IST
A PA 707 @ Yesilkoy.The PA round the world service was on some itineraries going via IST, onto KHI, or from LHR or FRA (and via IST) onto DEL then to BKK or HKG and NRT. (This would lead us too far from the topic now, but I'm proud to say I've flown all those sectors on PA, some on 707, others on 747 or 747SP)
The end of Panam Pakistan story started in SEP 1986, with the tragic hijack of Pan Am Flight 73 on September 5, 1986, as four hijackers dressed as Karachi airport security guards boarded the B747, but that's an other story.
Talking about the near future....
Now Turkey warns of plans to invade northern Iraq, how safe will it be to travel on TK (, or to and via Turkey)?
Authorities in Ankara say the PKK are behind recent bombings in the cities of Ankara, Izmir and Diyarbakir, as well as attacks on Turkish security forces in the mostly Kurdish south-east. Ankara also refuses to recognise the Kurdistan regional government in Iraq.
Now Turkey warns of plans to invade northern Iraq, how safe will it be to travel on TK (, or to and via Turkey)?
Authorities in Ankara say the PKK are behind recent bombings in the cities of Ankara, Izmir and Diyarbakir, as well as attacks on Turkish security forces in the mostly Kurdish south-east. Ankara also refuses to recognise the Kurdistan regional government in Iraq.
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I guess we can get away (once again) from political and geographical arguments and go back what we are specialised in - aviation- and the header of this article.
Here is another destination from THY. THY has decided to add Basel to its destinations list from Ankara Airport. Once a week flights will be to addition to their exisiting Istanbul-Basel 4 times a week flights.
In addition, Turkey has signed a civil aviation agreement with Senegal which will give access to THY to fly Senegal as well as use Senegal as stopover point for their future Brasil flights.
THY also launched some regional domestic flights: Bursa Yenisehir to Erzurum and Istanbul Ataturk to Eskisehir.
Here is another destination from THY. THY has decided to add Basel to its destinations list from Ankara Airport. Once a week flights will be to addition to their exisiting Istanbul-Basel 4 times a week flights.
In addition, Turkey has signed a civil aviation agreement with Senegal which will give access to THY to fly Senegal as well as use Senegal as stopover point for their future Brasil flights.
THY also launched some regional domestic flights: Bursa Yenisehir to Erzurum and Istanbul Ataturk to Eskisehir.
By definition....
It is always good to put some things in historical perspective, and not ignore facts. Sometimes it is good to know, sometimes it is good to understand. We do not want to die stupid, hakan.hakan wrote:I guess we can get away (once again) from political and geographical arguments and go back what we are specialised in - aviation- and the header of this article.
Nobody in those days ever taught that there would come an end to Panam.
Then there was the HKI hijack, Lockerbie and other heavy incidents. And the numero uno of aviation was gone...
Some western airlines were not (so) welcome in Middle and Near East, (at all). Is it a surprise now, airlines from the latter are not so welcome in the West? Not when you understand why.
That's why historical perspective, and facts are useful and cannot be ignored.
How else can eg the aviation fuel surcharge passengers have to pay, explained? Or how and why open skies are created.
Aviation is business, but also geography and politics.
We try to explain flameouts, but can we do that ignoring the weather.
We report hijackings, rampages, fraud, incidents and accidents, notice threats and violence... because we like to know and care about aviation and people. Therefor we will not be silenced, but keep asking, explaining.
That's also the difference between a timetable and a forum....
SN30592
I don't understand you ? You have a very confused mind. Your mind is full with strange ideas, theories.
You like stirring up the whole forum with some political opinions an conspiracy theories. Please do not tell me that you are the innocent party all the time.
Thanks God, not everyone in this forum and Europe is like you and branding any non-European as potential terorists, outsiders, liars,law breakers.
I am also dissapointed with Luchtzak allowing this kind of communication in this forum.
SHAME ON YOU SN30592 SHAME ON YOU LUCHTZAK FOR THIS BULLSHIT!!!!!!
I don't understand you ? You have a very confused mind. Your mind is full with strange ideas, theories.
You like stirring up the whole forum with some political opinions an conspiracy theories. Please do not tell me that you are the innocent party all the time.
Thanks God, not everyone in this forum and Europe is like you and branding any non-European as potential terorists, outsiders, liars,law breakers.
I am also dissapointed with Luchtzak allowing this kind of communication in this forum.
SHAME ON YOU SN30592 SHAME ON YOU LUCHTZAK FOR THIS BULLSHIT!!!!!!
TO SN:
for your information..all airliners are welcome in the east, and in the west..look at all the ceremonies and excitement at airports throughout the world when an airliner launches a new route...anyways terrorist attacks in the near east did much more damage to those near eastern countries than to the "western" airliners involved..those terrorist attacks were targetting the countries in which they took place in not the odd pan am airliner or swissair or air france..these were the innocent (colateral) victims. So kindly refrain from commenting on issues your are horribly ignorant about.. stick to what you know, and reading your post even that is quite limited.
for your information..all airliners are welcome in the east, and in the west..look at all the ceremonies and excitement at airports throughout the world when an airliner launches a new route...anyways terrorist attacks in the near east did much more damage to those near eastern countries than to the "western" airliners involved..those terrorist attacks were targetting the countries in which they took place in not the odd pan am airliner or swissair or air france..these were the innocent (colateral) victims. So kindly refrain from commenting on issues your are horribly ignorant about.. stick to what you know, and reading your post even that is quite limited.
Yes, now kill the messenger too, isn't it?hakan wrote:Thanks God, not everyone in this forum and Europe is like you and branding any non-European as potential terorists, outsiders, liars,law breakers.
And not all non-European are potential terrorist, outsider, liar, law breaker. Killer...
Yet, now who are these Seven Now In Custody?
Do you think everyone in the forum does like what is going on. Some are afraid to tell, because they fear insults...
Or retaliations*.
And they aren't certainly not the ones that spam the forum's mailbox. Or member's mailboxes, for weeks and month on.
*Is this a revenge for what I said about Turkey preparing to invade Kurdistan? Something I mentioned, in the context of attacks on tourists in Turkey?
Have your go.
Next the Belgians here will be accused of what our grand-parents did in Africa? We did not do it.
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Hey SN30952, now you hit the nail right. It is all the fault of us westerners. We give so much for free to refugees that we spoil them. So just like with other criminals they say: look at his spoiled youth. It is the fault of society.
And yes, it is the fault of the Belgians for everything that goes wrong in central Africa - because "we" colonised the Congo. Hutus killing Tutsis and visa versa? Our fault, we should not have accepted to take over the German protectorate after WW1. A Sukhoi-25 crashing over Kabila Jr's head? Our fault, we should have given him some left over F-16.
Now talking about those doctors: they choose the wrong method to harm Brittish society: doctor Shipman has killed +50 people for sure, and maybe up to 250 elderly people. Just by doing his job a bit over active.
And yes, it is the fault of the Belgians for everything that goes wrong in central Africa - because "we" colonised the Congo. Hutus killing Tutsis and visa versa? Our fault, we should not have accepted to take over the German protectorate after WW1. A Sukhoi-25 crashing over Kabila Jr's head? Our fault, we should have given him some left over F-16.
Now talking about those doctors: they choose the wrong method to harm Brittish society: doctor Shipman has killed +50 people for sure, and maybe up to 250 elderly people. Just by doing his job a bit over active.