APB announces 767 Blended Winglets

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 23 Apr 2007, 14:01

Aviation Partners Boeing announces release of blended winglets for the 767-300ER

http://www.tickertech.com/cgi/?a=news&t ... ____SFM038

smokejumper · Post by **smokejumper** » 23 Apr 2007, 17:19

With these winglets, the 767-300ER appears to have a new lease on life. It will not be as efficient as the A350 or B787, but it will be a good improvement on the current non-winglet equipped plane. Icelandic AL announced their intent to install them (when available) when they purchased several 767-300's several years ago.

I wonder whether and how much these winglets (with testing and certification) would improve the performance of the 767-200, including the KC-767 offered to the US Air Force tanker competition.

cageyjames · Post by **cageyjames** » 23 Apr 2007, 18:20

US could probably use them on their 767-200ERs if they ever offered them. Probably not going to happen as very few airlines are flying those anymore. Better we just transition to the A330 sooner rather than later (but we'll find out more about that at the end of the month).

smokejumper · Post by **smokejumper** » 23 Apr 2007, 18:53

What about the KC-767 and the 767-Freighter (a 767-300 derivitive)? In the case of the KC-767 (a -200LR Freighter derivitive), an increase in range, payload and lower fuel consumption would mmake it more competitive?

Anyone have an opinion?

OO-TUC · Post by **OO-TUC** » 23 Apr 2007, 23:05

IMO it would be perfect for the B767 fleet of dutch charter\scheduled carrier Martinair (MP). Although their birds are getting quite old ('89-93 years of build), it seems they cant replace them due to internal arguing (read: shareholders KLM\Maersk vs Management MP) and the financial side.

These winglets would extend the life of the birds, till MP can get a B787 replacement of them.

There are rumours too that the interior of the MP B767's will be updated next year.. can someone confirm this?

chunk · Post by **chunk** » 24 Apr 2007, 11:00

Can someone please explain something to a non-tekky like myself? How is it they only design winglets for 767's now? I mean....many widebodies have had them since they were built so why only now for these planes? I guess the same applies to teh 777...

CX · Post by CX » 24 Apr 2007, 14:28

Are they only doing it for the -300ER?
Qantas still has heaps of them, and before their 100 or so 787 arrives, they'll surely be one to get those winglets... but does winglets really improve performance so significantly that even extends range and payload etc?

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 24 Apr 2007, 14:50

Don't forget APB has only been doing Boeing jets since 1999, as well as other aircraft.

The largest market and leading candidate was the 737 and by all accounts from the airline customers they achieved spectacular savings and improved flight characteristics.

The 757 and 767 were up in the air so I would expect they did the design work earlier on and when the interest in those models increased they went ahead with producing them.

In answer to Chunks comments, I understand some models such as the 777 have supercritical wings and are not candidates for winglets, as for the 787 the same applies.

The military version of the 767 will have winglets as I understand.

All you want to know about winglets to found here:

http://www.aviationpartnersboeing.com/about/index.html

Dutchyboi · Post by **Dutchyboi** » 25 Apr 2007, 05:27

CX wrote:Are they only doing it for the -300ER?
Qantas still has heaps of them, and before their 100 or so 787 arrives, they'll surely be one to get those winglets... but does winglets really improve performance so significantly that even extends range and payload etc?

Most likely not, first they will have to withdraw them from service to have them installed which is $$ secondly the money it will cost to have them sitting in maintenance and not in the air. The further the distance the a/c flys with winglets the more effective and continous flying over acertain time frame to get their money back and turn it into a profit. With this QF won't have the 767 kicking on for too much longer due to the 787. Most of the sectors the 767 does nowdays are domestic with the longest being around 3 1/2 to 4 hours flying time. Most of the Asian sectors the 767 used to fly on have been taken over by the a333. So doubt this will occur.

fokker_f27 · Post by **fokker_f27** » 25 Apr 2007, 14:47

I think this has potential. The 787 doesn't necessary mean the end for the 767, but to be competitive adding wingets to the 767 seems like a good descision to me.

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 25 Apr 2007, 22:18

AA is adding winglets to its 767ER fleet.

If you want to see savings on fuel read this article.

http://www.pr-inside.com/american-airli ... 104536.htm