Looks like I missed something interesting earlier!!
The news about this incident is very sparse here in the UK, our text news says very little, nothing about where the aircraft was going etc, and our TV news reports are taken up with the rugby world cup!! Is this aircraft definitely carrying Icelandic registration?
DHL Airbus 300 hit by missile at Baghdad Airport
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André,
do you remember that you wrote this article: https://www.aviation24.be/article1738.html ?
So the assault must have happened when performing this kind of approach ...
do you remember that you wrote this article: https://www.aviation24.be/article1738.html ?
So the assault must have happened when performing this kind of approach ...
Why SAM?
Yes, why Sam?sn26567 wrote:Apparently two SAM-7 missiles were fired
Because SAM means: Surface-to-Air Missile (Sam) launcher, it is a tail-chasing missile - one that can only be fired from behind its target.
Planes from most airports around the world leave the airport's perimeter fences at an altitude that makes them vulnerable. See why:
Sam 7 Stela-2 launcher
................................Strela-2 (SA 7a) Strela-2M (SA 7b)
Max range.................3,200 metres...........4,200 metres
Min range................... 800 metres.......... 800 metres
Max altitude............. 2,000 metres........... 2,000 metres
Min altitude................... 50 metres......... 30-50 metres
Max speed of target......... 792 km/h........... 936 km/h
Max speed of missile...... 1386 km/h........... 2088 km/h
Operator......................... 1 person................1 person
The Strela-2 was widely copied and manufactured in Bulgaria, China, Egypt, Hungary, North Korea and Pakistan among other countries.
Shoulder-launched Sams in general can be launched from up to six kilometres.
One of the most famous stories of aircraft hit by a SAM was an Air Rhodesia Viscount "Umniati".
Air Rhodesia flt 827, a Vickers 748D Viscount (VP-YND C/n: 101 Year built: 1956) left Kariba Airport (KAB) on FEB12, 1979.
Shortly after departing Kariba, it was hit in the jet pipe of the inner port engine by a SAM-7 missile, burst into flames and crashed out of control into a ravine in the Vuti African Purchase Area.
Crew: 5 fatalities / 5 on board; Passengers: 54 fatalities / 54 on board; Total: 59 fatalities / 59 on board.
Location: near Kariba (Rhodesia) Phase: Climb
The same guys downed: Air Rhodesia flt 825 a Vickers 782D Viscount (VP-WAS C/n: 297 Year built: 1958) the "Hunyani"
Hunyani took off from Kariba Airport at 17.10h on Sep 03, 1978. Shortly after departing Kariba, the starboard wing was hit by a SAM-7 missile. An emergency descent was carried out and the crew tried to make an emergency landing in a large clearing in the bush. The aircraft crash-landed, striking an irrigation ditch, cart-wheeled, broke up and caught fire.
Crew: 4 fatalities / 4 on board; Passengers: 34 fatalities / 52 on board; Total: 38 fatalities / 56 on board; Location: Whamira Hills (Rhodesia) Phase: Climb
Both filghts were bound for Salisbury (as it was called at that time)
Who did it?
Fighters from Joshua Nkomo's Zimbabwe Peoples Revolution Army (ZIPRA), responsible for shooting down both airliner. These guys later they killed 10 of the 18 survivors. The rest of the survivors of the "Hunyani" were rescued the next day.
In 1979* Air Rhodesia was renamed Air Zimbabwe Rhodesia, in 1980 the airline became Air Zimbabwe.
*That year was also the end of the terrorist attacks.
Sorry I forgot to mention: Air Rhodesia = RH
Exclusive pictures of the DHL Airbus 300 can be seen via this link: https://www.aviation24.be/article2078.html
Note: received via anonymous e-mail.
Those pilots have been really lucky! You can clearly see the landing-gear doors sticking out, this means that they used the emergency landing-gear as they lost all hydraulic pressure!
greetz,
Bart
:rock:
Note: received via anonymous e-mail.
Those pilots have been really lucky! You can clearly see the landing-gear doors sticking out, this means that they used the emergency landing-gear as they lost all hydraulic pressure!
greetz,
Bart
:rock:
Just found an amazing article: Missile attack filmed by militants
A VIDEO showing a masked militant firing the missile that hit a DHL civilian cargo jet over Baghdad, setting its engine ablaze in the first successful hit on a plane of the seven-month-old insurgency, has been delivered to a French journalist.
The six-minute-long footage was received by Sara Daniel, correspondent of Paris-based weekly Le Nouvel Observateur. It shows 10 militants, their faces concealed by chequered keffiyeh headdresses or white scarves, carrying out the attack from scrubland south of the capital.
The shoulder-launched missile is seen shooting up into the sky after being fired by one of the cell and then homing in on the Airbus-300 freighter.
The vapour trail makes a sharp U-turn as the missile homes in on the infra-red or radio signals from the scheduled Baghdad to Dubai courier flight.
The militants are then seen making their get-away in a car. The 11th militant who presumably shot the footage films his own lap in his haste to get into the vehicle.
After a break, the video resumes with footage of the stricken airliner diving back down to Baghdad airport, in clearly amateur footage shot through electricity lines.
The men, clad in flowing black abayas or camouflage fatigues, carry rocket-propelled grenade launchers or Kalashnikovs as well as two portable missile launchers.
Only one missile is seen fired.
Before the firing, a US army helicopter is seen hovering in the middle distance, but the militants have clearly chosen their target and leave the military aircraft alone.
Tall grass partially obstructs the view of the chopper. It is unclear whether it is the undergrowth that prevents the soldiers aboard from spotting the militants, or the three cars they have parked on a dusty path, as they ready their strike.
The missile launcher is an SA-14 Gremlin, not an SA-7 Grail as initially reported by the US military.
Both are made by Russian firm Strela but the Gremlin is heavier, weighing in at 16kg, compared with the 9.15kg of the Grail.
The SA-14 has a range of 2000m when used against an approaching jet, although this is extended to 4500m when used against a helicopter or propeller-driven aircraft.
Ms Daniel said the video had been left at her hotel Sunday. She said had no idea why she had been chosen among the hundreds of other journalists covering the persistent insurgency that has dogged the US-led occupation.
"I have been working on a feature on the various resistance groups for several weeks. I've no idea who these people are who carried out this attack but maybe they had heard of me through the others I have met while researching my piece," she said.
A VIDEO showing a masked militant firing the missile that hit a DHL civilian cargo jet over Baghdad, setting its engine ablaze in the first successful hit on a plane of the seven-month-old insurgency, has been delivered to a French journalist.
The six-minute-long footage was received by Sara Daniel, correspondent of Paris-based weekly Le Nouvel Observateur. It shows 10 militants, their faces concealed by chequered keffiyeh headdresses or white scarves, carrying out the attack from scrubland south of the capital.
The shoulder-launched missile is seen shooting up into the sky after being fired by one of the cell and then homing in on the Airbus-300 freighter.
The vapour trail makes a sharp U-turn as the missile homes in on the infra-red or radio signals from the scheduled Baghdad to Dubai courier flight.
The militants are then seen making their get-away in a car. The 11th militant who presumably shot the footage films his own lap in his haste to get into the vehicle.
After a break, the video resumes with footage of the stricken airliner diving back down to Baghdad airport, in clearly amateur footage shot through electricity lines.
The men, clad in flowing black abayas or camouflage fatigues, carry rocket-propelled grenade launchers or Kalashnikovs as well as two portable missile launchers.
Only one missile is seen fired.
Before the firing, a US army helicopter is seen hovering in the middle distance, but the militants have clearly chosen their target and leave the military aircraft alone.
Tall grass partially obstructs the view of the chopper. It is unclear whether it is the undergrowth that prevents the soldiers aboard from spotting the militants, or the three cars they have parked on a dusty path, as they ready their strike.
The missile launcher is an SA-14 Gremlin, not an SA-7 Grail as initially reported by the US military.
Both are made by Russian firm Strela but the Gremlin is heavier, weighing in at 16kg, compared with the 9.15kg of the Grail.
The SA-14 has a range of 2000m when used against an approaching jet, although this is extended to 4500m when used against a helicopter or propeller-driven aircraft.
Ms Daniel said the video had been left at her hotel Sunday. She said had no idea why she had been chosen among the hundreds of other journalists covering the persistent insurgency that has dogged the US-led occupation.
"I have been working on a feature on the various resistance groups for several weeks. I've no idea who these people are who carried out this attack but maybe they had heard of me through the others I have met while researching my piece," she said.
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The "cork procedure" is to climb in spiral up to 18000ft and level off. While performing the first turn, the a/c was hit. The crew then "spiraled" down and landed the a/c with no hydraulics (no brakes, no nose wheel steering).
Their luck
was that the a/c was hit during take-off. This means full fuel tanks. Empty fueltanks mean vapours and thus possible explosion.
Their luck
was that the a/c was hit during take-off. This means full fuel tanks. Empty fueltanks mean vapours and thus possible explosion.They were very lucky not to have the leading edge struck !
Damage is clearly constrained to the aft part of the wing which is why Lima Lima safely landed.
As 744rules said they were also saved by their full tnaks. It's incredible but it's like that.
Do you know if DLL is w/o or if a repair could be done? Of course if it had happened somewhere with the correct infrastructure, because in Bagdad all they probably can do is scrapping. I doubt the american military has civil repair capability.
I hope DHL has all the insurance, 'cause such a beauty is worth a lot of money.
Anyway, as I have a special story going on with OO-DLL's oldest living brother (c/n 003), I really got attached to those 300's. Hope it'll fly again someday.
ciao,
TriStar
!Damage is clearly constrained to the aft part of the wing which is why Lima Lima safely landed.
As 744rules said they were also saved by their full tnaks. It's incredible but it's like that.
Do you know if DLL is w/o or if a repair could be done? Of course if it had happened somewhere with the correct infrastructure, because in Bagdad all they probably can do is scrapping. I doubt the american military has civil repair capability.
I hope DHL has all the insurance, 'cause such a beauty is worth a lot of money.
Anyway, as I have a special story going on with OO-DLL's oldest living brother (c/n 003), I really got attached to those 300's. Hope it'll fly again someday.
ciao,
TriStar
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