True or not ? Virgin Express (VEX) grounds 3 Boeing 737

Post by **luchtzak** » 21 Nov 2003, 17:31

Hi all,

apparently Virgin Express (VEX) actually grounds 3 Boeing 737 because passenger-figures dropped heavily. And because of the grounding they will not extend some pilot-contracts which finish in December.

True or not ? Confirmation please ...

Bart
:rock:

Post by **sn26567** » 21 Nov 2003, 17:38

Could it be the planes used fo charter flights?

I don't think that the planes for scheduled flights will be grounded: they have to fly, whatever the number of pax aboard. And I have not seen cancellations on the BIAC website.

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 21 Nov 2003, 17:46

Has the number of pax really dropped that much

Sabena_690 · Post by **Sabena_690** » 21 Nov 2003, 17:54

The difference in their fares with SN is really small. Add to this the catering (if you buy anything) and the price of a more comfortable seat and it is even more expensive than SN.

I would like to know the yield of VEX and the yield of SN on the routes they serve together (MAD/FCO/BCN/...)

Regards
Frederic

TWA · Post by **TWA** » 21 Nov 2003, 20:30

The wintertimetable '03/'04 shows less frequencies on certain destinations (MAD/BCN/NCE/AGP/PMI/FAO/CPH....)than the summertimetable '03 --> rest of 3 B737 of which the leasing contract is ending now and which will be returned to their lessors soon. Will they be replaced for next summerschedule ??? Nobody knows so far.

TWA

PS. by the way the pax load figures have not dropped at all.

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 21 Nov 2003, 21:48

Thanks for the information TWA

Do you also knoow which of the 3 planes are affected ??

Thanks
Ciao
Chris
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TWA · Post by **TWA** » 21 Nov 2003, 22:11

I heard B734 OO-VEF is one of the most expensive leasings, so it would be obvious for this one to leave first. Didn't you notice?...This aircraft hasn't been repaint yet and the red color is fading away into pink and white.

TWA

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 21 Nov 2003, 22:25

Didn't you notice?...This aircraft hasn't been repaint yet and the red color is fading away into pink and white.

It's slowely becoming an albinos plane

Ciao
Chris
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Fab99 · Post by **Fab99** » 22 Nov 2003, 00:23

Just a question, both companies having the same number of pax (more or less) and the same ticket prices (read post above), how could the yield of VEX be worst than the one of SNBA knowing that VEX has two times less employees and two times less aircraft???

The real question is how is SNBA doing this?

Flybe · Post by **Flybe** » 25 Nov 2003, 19:30

Hmm, i wouldn't go stating immediately that VEX has the same fares as SNBA. I think that VEX still has significant lower fares then SNBA for most routes. Although i can be wrong, it's not something that i check so often, but last time i saw some prices, i would say that there is a significant difference.

Pieter

L-1011 · Post by **L-1011** » 25 Nov 2003, 21:07

TWA wrote:I heard B734 OO-VEF is one of the most expensive leasings, so it would be obvious for this one to leave first. Didn't you notice?...This aircraft hasn't been repaint yet and the red color is fading away into pink and white.

TWA

So that's why it's getting white on the top

Finally we know

(remember our little talk this summer

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I think the fleet downsizing is logical as VEX serves many holiday destinations. And with their low prices they attract many tourists in the summer.

TWA wrote:The wintertimetable '03/'04 shows less frequencies on certain destinations (MAD/BCN/NCE/AGP/PMI/FAO/CPH....)than the summertimetable '03

They have way less buisness traffic. And in the winter there's less traffic to those airports, so that's logical

ciao,
TriStar

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