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• NEW: Transport minister says distress signal picked up over central Sulawesi
• Adam Air passenger plane loses contact with flight controllers
• Boeing 737-400 was flying between Indonesia's Java and Sulawesi islands
Contact lost with Indonesian jet
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The details of a sad story....
45.371 flight hours and 26.725 landings.
KI-574, was carrying 96 passengers including seven children and four infants, plus a crew of six.
The Adam Air B737-400, left Monday afternoon from the East Javan capital Surabaya for Manado, the provincial capital of North Sulawesi.
It lost contact at about 3 pm, or an hour before it was scheduled to arrive at Manado's Sam Ratulangi airport.
A signal from its emergency locator beacon (ELB) indicated the plane was in the western Sulawesi district of Mamuju, about 1,350 kilometres northeast of Jakarta.
Here is the first crew to die in 2007:
1. PIC : CPT. REFRI A. WIDODO
2. FO : YOGA
3. CABIN CREW:
1) FA1 : VERAWATI CHATARINA
2) FA2 : DINA OKTARINA
3) FA3 : NINING IRIYANI
4) FA4 : RATIH SEKAR SARI
And the final count is:
Total Passengers : 85 ADULT, 07 CHILD, 04 INFANT.
Passenger name list
Singapore Satellite Detection Signal gave following coordinates:
Current position of the aircraft is at 030 13’92’’ S 1190 09’17’’ E.
at Mamuju, about 83 nautical miles northwest of Makassar.
It was bad weather, heavy rains and strong winds, when the plane lost contact.
KI-574, was carrying 96 passengers including seven children and four infants, plus a crew of six.
The Adam Air B737-400, left Monday afternoon from the East Javan capital Surabaya for Manado, the provincial capital of North Sulawesi.
It lost contact at about 3 pm, or an hour before it was scheduled to arrive at Manado's Sam Ratulangi airport.
A signal from its emergency locator beacon (ELB) indicated the plane was in the western Sulawesi district of Mamuju, about 1,350 kilometres northeast of Jakarta.
Here is the first crew to die in 2007:
1. PIC : CPT. REFRI A. WIDODO
2. FO : YOGA
3. CABIN CREW:
1) FA1 : VERAWATI CHATARINA
2) FA2 : DINA OKTARINA
3) FA3 : NINING IRIYANI
4) FA4 : RATIH SEKAR SARI
And the final count is:
Total Passengers : 85 ADULT, 07 CHILD, 04 INFANT.
Passenger name list
Singapore Satellite Detection Signal gave following coordinates:
Current position of the aircraft is at 030 13’92’’ S 1190 09’17’’ E.
at Mamuju, about 83 nautical miles northwest of Makassar.
It was bad weather, heavy rains and strong winds, when the plane lost contact.
As usual one cannot trust anything the media reports out Indonesia:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6224747.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/6224747.stm
There are no strangers in the world, just friends we have yet to meet.
Also a very interesting the read thread about this incident at airliners.net:
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/ge ... n/3175980/
And a thread about Adam Air in general written after a previous incident of an aircraft of this company loosing all communication etc
Scarry to read to be honest.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/ge ... 949301//6/
Let's hope all the best for the people on board, however changes of survivors are getting smaller and smaller by the minute.
Greetings,
Yvo
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/ge ... n/3175980/
And a thread about Adam Air in general written after a previous incident of an aircraft of this company loosing all communication etc
Scarry to read to be honest.
http://www.airliners.net/discussions/ge ... 949301//6/
Let's hope all the best for the people on board, however changes of survivors are getting smaller and smaller by the minute.
Greetings,
Yvo
Still no news.....
The renewed search effort, in the face of heavy rain and strong winds, was being coordinated from Makassar, Sulawesi's largest city, 1,400 km (875 miles) east of Jakarta.
Transport Minister Hatta Radjasa said military planes had been deployed since daybreak and naval ships sent to the Makassar Strait between Sulawesi and Borneo in case the doomed plane had fallen into the sea.
An Indonesian air force official said the aircraft were searching areas between the Sulawesi coastal town of Majene and Toraja, a mountainous region popular with tourists.
However, much of it is covered with jungle and forest, and transportation and communication facilities can be poor at best.
The confusion over the missing plane highlighted the logistical difficulties of dealing with disasters, from quakes and volcanoes to floods and forest fires, in an archipelago of 17,000 islands that stretches about as wide as the United States.
Indonesia resumes search for airliner
The renewed search effort, in the face of heavy rain and strong winds, was being coordinated from Makassar, Sulawesi's largest city, 1,400 km (875 miles) east of Jakarta.
Transport Minister Hatta Radjasa said military planes had been deployed since daybreak and naval ships sent to the Makassar Strait between Sulawesi and Borneo in case the doomed plane had fallen into the sea.
An Indonesian air force official said the aircraft were searching areas between the Sulawesi coastal town of Majene and Toraja, a mountainous region popular with tourists.
However, much of it is covered with jungle and forest, and transportation and communication facilities can be poor at best.
The confusion over the missing plane highlighted the logistical difficulties of dealing with disasters, from quakes and volcanoes to floods and forest fires, in an archipelago of 17,000 islands that stretches about as wide as the United States.
Indonesia resumes search for airlinerQantas considered buying into the low-cost airline Adam Air last year.
Nothing came of the talks, in which at one point, Adam Air claimed Qantas had sought a 20% stake.
Qantas said it was not in discussions with Adam Air "at present".
The Indonesian Government has barred Jetstar Asia and several other foreign-based low-cost airlines from key routes, such as Jakarta, for fear of undermining the national airline Garuda.
And then you get this....
It was a particularly bitter blow to Adam Adhitya Suherman, 26, the president of Adam SkyConnection Airlines. In an Indonesian industry known for bankruptcies and safety problems, Mr. Suherman and his family of Chinese traders had aimed to create a reliable and relatively inexpensive airline for a rapidly growing pool of Indonesian travelers. And they seemed to be succeeding.
From a shoestring domestic operation, started in 2003 with three leased Boeing 737s, the airline grew by 2006 into a $300 million-a-year business, flying 19 planes to 25 domestic and international destinations and harboring big ambitions for growth. The family’s goal for 2006 was to carry six million to eight million passengers. It was courted by big investors, including Qantas and Tiger Airways.
btw
Indonesian officials admitted that they did not know what had happened to the 17-year-old Boeing 737-400 operated by Adam Air that disappeared from radar screens in bad weather...
Nothing came of the talks, in which at one point, Adam Air claimed Qantas had sought a 20% stake.
Qantas said it was not in discussions with Adam Air "at present".
The Indonesian Government has barred Jetstar Asia and several other foreign-based low-cost airlines from key routes, such as Jakarta, for fear of undermining the national airline Garuda.
And then you get this....
It was a particularly bitter blow to Adam Adhitya Suherman, 26, the president of Adam SkyConnection Airlines. In an Indonesian industry known for bankruptcies and safety problems, Mr. Suherman and his family of Chinese traders had aimed to create a reliable and relatively inexpensive airline for a rapidly growing pool of Indonesian travelers. And they seemed to be succeeding.
From a shoestring domestic operation, started in 2003 with three leased Boeing 737s, the airline grew by 2006 into a $300 million-a-year business, flying 19 planes to 25 domestic and international destinations and harboring big ambitions for growth. The family’s goal for 2006 was to carry six million to eight million passengers. It was courted by big investors, including Qantas and Tiger Airways.
btw
Indonesian officials admitted that they did not know what had happened to the 17-year-old Boeing 737-400 operated by Adam Air that disappeared from radar screens in bad weather...
Intensified search thursday 4 jan:
Two Singapore air force surveillance aircraft have been sent to Indonesia after the search for the Adam Air passenger jet that went missing last week was intensified.
Eddy Suyanto, commander of Hasanudin air base, said the Singaporean air force's two jets would join two helicopters and six aeroplanes on the Indonesian side to try to locate the missing Adam Air airliner.
Heavy rains, strong winds and rough terrain continued to hamper rescue operations on Thursday.
Two Singaporean Fokker-50s have joined Indonesian military aircraft in the search, while three ships are participating and another is on the way.
Jakarta steps up effort to find jet
Indonesia seeks missing plane with foreign help
Two Singapore air force surveillance aircraft have been sent to Indonesia after the search for the Adam Air passenger jet that went missing last week was intensified.
Eddy Suyanto, commander of Hasanudin air base, said the Singaporean air force's two jets would join two helicopters and six aeroplanes on the Indonesian side to try to locate the missing Adam Air airliner.
Heavy rains, strong winds and rough terrain continued to hamper rescue operations on Thursday.
Two Singaporean Fokker-50s have joined Indonesian military aircraft in the search, while three ships are participating and another is on the way.
Jakarta steps up effort to find jet Indonesia seeks missing plane with foreign help05 Jan 2007 : still missing.....
Officials said at least four Indonesian fixed-wing military planes, a Singapore air force Fokker-50 and a helicopter were looking for the missing airliner along with army and police ground teams and civilian and navy ships.
Later on Friday, Suyanto told Reuters more foreign help might be sought because efforts so far had yielded no results.
Indonesia widens search
Officials said at least four Indonesian fixed-wing military planes, a Singapore air force Fokker-50 and a helicopter were looking for the missing airliner along with army and police ground teams and civilian and navy ships.
Later on Friday, Suyanto told Reuters more foreign help might be sought because efforts so far had yielded no results.
Indonesia widens search "Tambolaka incident" bis?
blackhawk, make it "Indonesian jet lost, "Tambolaka incident" bis"blackhawk wrote:Contact lost with Indonesian jet
So far they have found no trace of the Boeing 737, but it is not unheard of that the plane did not issue a mayday.
The Adam B737 lost contact, after twice altering its course over water and land because of severe weather.
Many now wonder how a Boeing 737 could vanish: at least two signals from Flight KI-574's emergency beacon, activated on impact or when a plane experiences a sharp, sudden descent, were picked up by another aircraft in the vicinity and by a satellite.
The rapid Indonesian expansion led to cheap flights across Indonesia, the world's largest archipelago, but has also raised concerns because of reports of poor maintenance of the leased planes.
There are gaps in the Indonesian communications systems.
Last year, an Adam Air Boeing 737 flew off course on the same route.
The B737 was lost for several hours before it made an emergency landing at the small Tambolaka airstrip.
That was then, hundreds of miles from where it was supposed to be:
The Jakarta Post (dated 11 February 2006):
An Adam Air Boeing 737-300 plane serving the Jakarta-Makassar route was forced to make an emergency landing Saturday at the small Tambulaka Airport in Sumba, East Nusa Tenggara, a spokesperson for Adam Air said.
The plane took off from Jakarta's Soekarno-Hatta International Airport at 6:20 a.m. with 145 passengers on board. It was scheduled to land at Hasanuddin Airport in Makassar at 9:25 a.m. local time, Suwandi, Adam Air supervisor for Makassar, said. There is a one hour time difference between Jakarta and Makassar.
However, navigational problems caused pilot Tri Tuniogo to lose contact with the destination airport, he said. The plane was later found to have landed at Tambolaka* at 9:45 a.m. local time.
"No one was hurt in the incident," Didik, Adam Air's public relations officer for Jakarta, said, adding that the emergency landing was made due to bad weather. "As to whether it was a storm or heavy rain that forced the pilot to land -- we remain uninformed," he said.
The ministry of transportation considers that Adam Air committed a serious violation when operating a plane still required for "evidence" following a serious incident affecting the navigation system of the plane.
"That is a serious violation and the first ever committed by an airline in Indonesia. The Adam Air management needs to be examined in connection with it," the ministry's director general of air transportation, Iksan Tatang, said replying a reporter's question here on Monday.
Adam Air's Boeing 737-300 aircraft with flight number DHI728 had made an emergency landing at Tambolaka airstrip in West Sumba, East Nusa Tenggara, after wandering for three hours due to a navigation system failure on its way from Jakarta to East Nusa Tenggar with 145 passengers on board.
On Sunday the aircraft was flown by the airline's operations director, Ade Salmiar, to Hasanuddin airport in Makassar, Sulawesi, after technicians from the Ngurah Rai airport in Bali repaired it.
The director general said the plane should not have been flown pending an examination by the National Committee of Transportation Safety (KNKT) and the Directorate of Airworthiness Certification.
"In view of that the Adam Air management must be examined, including the pilot that flew it," he said adding that if the pilot was found to be aware that his action was actually wrong he could have his license revoked.
Adam Air's B737-400 flight KI-574, registered as PK-KKW, wreck was said to be discovered near Polewali. Village rumours copied by worldwide news agencies including BBC, Reuters, CNN, New York Times, Financial Times, Forbes ... and me, in Luchtzak.
The truth is: it vanished....
*TMC Tambolaka Indonesia
S09 24, E119 14
Runway Length: 5905 other info : 4600 x 98 feet ASP
Elevation: 161
Magnetic Variation: 1 E
ICAO WADT
City Waikabubak
Island group Sumba Islands
Tambolaka
Today 07/01/07
In the last six days, the search operations were backed up by at least nine planes and helicopters, including a Fokker-50 from the Singapore Air Force and four navy ships.
The marine search was focussed on waters off West Sulawesi province and mountainous areas near Rantepao in Tanah Toraja district of South Sulawesi province.
On land, nearly 3,000 police officers and soldiers, assisted by villagers, are combing a possible crash area in West Sulawesi, where the aircraft was last detected on radar
In the last six days, the search operations were backed up by at least nine planes and helicopters, including a Fokker-50 from the Singapore Air Force and four navy ships.
The marine search was focussed on waters off West Sulawesi province and mountainous areas near Rantepao in Tanah Toraja district of South Sulawesi province.
On land, nearly 3,000 police officers and soldiers, assisted by villagers, are combing a possible crash area in West Sulawesi, where the aircraft was last detected on radar
and what about the ELT?
(or the ULB's)
greetz
(or the ULB's)
greetz
Visit www.batechnics.com ! (Belgian Aviation Technics)
Hello,
Seven days after the crash, the ELT's (Emergency Locator Transmitter) batteries are empty, so no signal from those one anymore.
The ELT's work for at least 2 days. The first day on three frequencies and after 24 hours , the ELT send a signal every 50 sec on 1 frequency.
Hope they will find it soon.
Olivier
Seven days after the crash, the ELT's (Emergency Locator Transmitter) batteries are empty, so no signal from those one anymore.
The ELT's work for at least 2 days. The first day on three frequencies and after 24 hours , the ELT send a signal every 50 sec on 1 frequency.
Hope they will find it soon.
Olivier
Indonesian Consumers Foundation lodge a $US100 million suit for damages against budget carrier Adam Air, claiming the airline compromised safety in an attempt to keep prices low, calling also for damages of one billion rupiahs to be paid on behalf of each of the 96 passengers and six crew aboard the doomed Adam Air flight.
That could be the final curtain for Adam...
That could be the final curtain for Adam...
That's rather odd that a lawsuit would be filed before the facts are sorted out. Without actually finding the wreakage or the black boxes, it's not fair to simply conclude that it was indeed the airliner's fault. It could have been wind shear, terrorism, suicide, UFO, or anything.
Let's hope cool heads prevail.
Let's hope cool heads prevail.
By the way, is there anyone on board who knows how to fly an airplane?
Unfinished Object
Unleaded Fuel Only?DFW wrote: It could have been wind shear, terrorism, suicide, UFO, or anything.
Unidentified Floating Object?
Ubiquitous Findable Object?
United Flying Octogenarians?
One thing is certainly missing, a UHF Follow-On satellite
Indeed they do not believe in Santa Claus in Indonesia.
Discard this last one too...