Bravo Air Congo starts flights in September to Brussels?

Airbus330lover · Post by **Airbus330lover** » 11 Aug 2006, 09:20

?? direct flight to FIH-BRU ?

Sneta · Post by **Sneta** » 11 Aug 2006, 12:13

A B767 from Bravo Air Congo left yesterday Hangar 41 of Sabena Technics after a maintenance check

Airbus330lover · Post by **Airbus330lover** » 11 Aug 2006, 12:52

Sneta wrote:A B767 from Bravo Air Congo left yesterday Hangar 41 of Sabena Technics after a maintenance check

Ferry flight OK
But they have normally no traffic rights FIH-BRU... and the timetable shows a direct flight....

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 11 Aug 2006, 16:57

Its mentioned several times that they will have two direct flights from FIH to BRU and BRU to FIH.

The Monday flight will go via CDG.

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 14 Aug 2006, 14:03

I received just by e-mail info from Bravo Air congo itselfs.

At this moment they forseen inaugural flight to BRU in October. First they have to start with their domestic routes before starting international services.

AVION1 · Post by **AVION1** » 14 Aug 2006, 22:23

For the moment the 767 fly for UX.

Established02 · Post by **Established02** » 20 Aug 2006, 16:53

http://www.standaard.be/Artikel/Detail. ... 082006_035

Nationale Congolese luchtvaartmaatschappij herneemt vluchten

LAC (ex Air Congo - ex Air Zaire) has resumed flights after years of inactivity.

The first flight has been operated last saturday by a B732 in the colours of the Republic of Congo, connecting Kinshasa with Kisangani and Bunia.

Reportedly this is "just the beginning", as they expect to put additional aircraft into service and to cover more destinations, initially domestic ones, but later on some international or intercontinental destinations will be added. As from September LAC will have a B767 available.

What other intercontinental destinations would they be considering apart from CDG and BRU? DXB, PEK?

Imagine having 4 different carriers (SNBA / Hewa Bora / Bravo Air Congo / LAC) on FIH-BRU!

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 20 Aug 2006, 17:35

Are they considering CDG or BRU? That would mean, if they want to compete with Bravo, that they have to offer prices under 800 euros.

Competition would be very nice on this route. But why don't SNBA offer single flights to FIH? More and more airlines are considering to offer single flights. This is more interesting for pax.
HBA offer single flights, Bravo Air Congo will offer two of their three flights as a single flight to FIH.

But about the "new" flights of LAC, first wait and see. Everything depends what the unknown moneymaker will do.

Established02 · Post by **Established02** » 20 Aug 2006, 19:29

Remember that other Congolese airline "Scibe" that was flying FBM-FIH-BRU for a while during the eighties/nineties. I remember a Sunday evening arrival at BRU with a B707. I don't know for how long they have been operating their DC10 to BRU later on.

I understand that Scibe was part of the business empire of a mister "Bemba". Wat that the same Bemba as the one that is currently running as a presidential candidate in Congo?

Hewa Bora is the place of birth of current president Joseph Kabila. Therefore I suspect that he is financially involved in Hewa Bora Airlines.

I believe that also former Congolese president Mobutu had a stake in a local airline, i.e. Air Zaire.

Politics and the airline industry go apparently hand in hand in Congo.

SN30952 · Post by **SN30952** » 20 Aug 2006, 20:15

Established02 wrote:Politics and the airline industry go apparently hand in hand in Congo.

Not only in Congo, in whole Africa and in Surinam.

jan_olieslagers · Post by **jan_olieslagers** » 20 Aug 2006, 20:29

SN30952 wrote:
Established02 wrote:Politics and the airline industry go apparently hand in hand in Congo.
Not only in Congo, in whole Africa and in Surinam.

And let's not forget little Belgium!

Post by **sn26567** » 22 Aug 2006, 09:16

Established02 wrote:LAC (ex Air Congo - ex Air Zaire) has resumed flights after years of inactivity.

The first flight has been operated last saturday by a B732 in the colours of the Republic of Congo, connecting Kinshasa with Kisangani and Bunia.

Where did they find the money to re-launch LAC, which was as good as bankrupt since a few years?

Twenty4 · Post by **Twenty4** » 25 Aug 2006, 12:11

Established02 wrote:
I understand that Scibe was part of the business empire of a mister "Bemba". Wat that the same Bemba as the one that is currently running as a presidential candidate in Congo?

It's his son Jean Pierre Bemba who's running now for president!

jan_olieslagers · Post by **jan_olieslagers** » 04 Sep 2006, 22:46

SN30952 wrote:
Destinies from Europe,-Destinies in Africa,-Destinies in the Congo

Hm. If they can't distinguish "destinies" from "destinations" they might well scare off some native English speaking pax. I for one would carefully avoid a destiny in the Congo...

SN30952 wrote:Are they waiting for the outcome of the election in "the" Congo?

A very shrewd remark, that. Weren't we reminded that most Congo airlines are linked up with one or another political clan? As things stand, they'll be waiting for a few more months.

TCAS_climb · Post by **TCAS_climb** » 07 Sep 2006, 14:29

They'll probably scare off any aviation-educated passenger when reading the "9Q-" registration on medium/short-haul aircraft.

Bravo is advertising "European standards" for its fleet, but I doubt they'll follow JAR-OPS and EASA Parts for the "9Q-" aircraft. Which means, at least to me, that their sales pitch is just crap. I can't wait to see if Bravo will be included in the next revision of the European black list ! Wait & see...

By the way they plan to start domestic operations on 9/11. Congolese sense of humor I guess...
8)

744rules · Post by **744rules** » 07 Sep 2006, 16:37

Established02 wrote:Remember that other Congolese airline "Scibe" that was flying FBM-FIH-BRU for a while during the eighties/nineties. I remember a Sunday evening arrival at BRU with a B707. I don't know for how long they have been operating their DC10 to BRU later on.

I understand that Scibe was part of the business empire of a mister "Bemba". Wat that the same Bemba as the one that is currently running as a presidential candidate in Congo?

1/SCIBE has been flying under QC (Air Zaire) fltnr.

2/in SCIBE, BE stands for Bemba, don't remember the other characters

SN30952 · Post by **SN30952** » 07 Sep 2006, 17:41

Société Commerciale et Industrielle Bemba, 744rules
Scibe Airlift S.P.R.L

LEES Congolees vice-president Jean-Pierre Bemba opnieuw in vieze papieren

Boeing 727 ("immatriculatie 9Q-CBF") That is why I was interested to know what B727 was in Brussels recently.

Bemba's vader, Bemba Saolona – een vertrouweling van dictator Mobutu – leidde de Scibe-maatschappij van wie eind 2002 in Oostende een luchtonwaardige (en verdachte) Boeing aan de ketting werd gelegd. Jean-Pierre Bemba werkte rond 2000 intensief samen met Viktor Bout.

c'est l'AFDL qui aurait ruiné les sociétés SCIBE ZAIRE et COMCELL de la famille BEMBA ! Qui ignore au Congo que ces entreprises bâties avec la bénédiction de Mobutu et du MPR-Parti Etat, n'existaient presque plus à l'entrée de l'AFDL en 1997! Elles étaient déjà tombées en ruine à cause de la megestion de leurs propriétaires ! Pour ce qui est de SCIBE, Jean Pierre BEMBA sait par exemple qu'il a des comptes à rendre à l'Etat congolais pour les créances arrêtées au 31 décembre 1992, à 1.819.522,98 $.US et au 11 novembre 1992 pour les créances en Zaïre monnaie, à 2.819.368.126,24 Zaïres que leur « fameuse SCIBE-ZAIRE » doit à la Régie des voies aériennes (RVA), sans compter le détournement des avions AIR-ZAIRE, notamment, les « FOKKER » arrachés avec la complicité du Maréchal Président sans avoir versé un seul rond à l'Etat. Le dossier existe et à la Conférence Nationale Souveraine, la pilule était trop amère pour être avalée par les BEMBA (père et fils) !

You will understand that I do not want to translate...

airazurxtror · Post by **airazurxtror** » 07 Sep 2006, 18:46

In "Le Soir" to-day :
Political situation permitting, Bravo Air Congo will fly Brussels - Kinshasa twice weekly, beginning on 10 october.

Tonan · Post by **Tonan** » 19 Sep 2006, 12:02

I just come back from RDC and On Monday 11 SEP there was two DC9 from Bravo Air COngo departuring from Kinshasa airport. So it is seemed that they have añready start operations unless within RDC

See how long it takes the international flights to Europe

As per what I could see flights were quite full to be the first day of operations

Let see in near future

Post by **airbuske** » 19 Sep 2006, 12:18

I was checking the site and I saw that it is possible to book your flight from Brussels to Kinshasa. Return fare from 1.120,00 € taxes and fares included.$

Flights would be starting the 1st Jan 2007 ?

Aviation24.be

Bravo Air Congo starts flights in September to Brussels?

Re: Destinies in the Congo

Waar daar is rook is vuur....

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