Grand Canyon Airline Tragedy

SN30952 · Post by **SN30952** » 04 Jul 2006, 16:12

Some readers of Luchtzak will remember the Grand Canyon Airline Tragedy
That accident changed aviation in the USA forever.

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 05 Jul 2006, 14:15

Wow, it took some time to read the whole review, but it was worthwhile! Quite astonishing to see the level of detail in which they can describe what happened!
If this is really the worst accident in the US history, then they can praise themselves lucky (relatively offcourse), because the worst accident in European history was with two passenger 747 on a tenerife runway. I think it was a departing KLM plane that struck a PanAm plane that was taxiing on the runway. The KLM plane took of in severe fog without permission for takeoff...

greetings,
bAIR

SN30952 · Post by **SN30952** » 05 Jul 2006, 15:02

Panam was American, but Las Palmas and Lockerbie are often forgotten...
That's a way of survival.
The last war the USA won was WW II, now 60 years ago. The following ones were ... not wars.
Ask the French, the Russians same way of thinking and same results.

What makes countries great? Victories of course and do not mention the rest.

There is a selective wipe out.
Notice how in the worlcup all the countries remember their victories... only their victories.

Philip1069 · Post by **Philip1069** » 05 Jul 2006, 17:32

teddybAIR wrote:Wow, it took some time to read the whole review, but it was worthwhile! Quite astonishing to see the level of detail in which they can describe what happened!
If this is really the worst accident in the US history, then they can praise themselves lucky (relatively offcourse), because the worst accident in European history was with two passenger 747 on a tenerife runway. I think it was a departing KLM plane that struck a PanAm plane that was taxiing on the runway. The KLM plane took of in severe fog without permission for takeoff...
bAIR

That's correct, the recommendations of the NTSB afterwards also changed the ATC communication procedures, and especially the use of the word "take-off" in the communication between a pilot and ATC. "Take-of" can only be used now by ATC and only to give final take-off clearance to an aircraft that is lined up on the runway (and also for clearance for a rolling start). On all other occasions the word 'departure' has to be used... to avoid all possible future misunderstandings like those that have lead to thit tragic accident...