Iberia launches an LCC: Clickair

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 19 Jun 2006, 15:54

I can't give more details if the source give not more. But following the situation in Catalonië it could be that name.

catair · Post by **catair** » 23 Jun 2006, 00:26

Well, I went to the source. As in some Spanish papers it seems as if Catair is the name but it is just the holding name.
The commercial name has to be decided.
I imagine again www.clickair.com to be the choice.
I do not know when they will decide...

xmad · Post by **xmad** » 23 Jun 2006, 19:12

Dear Gentlemen,

today you can see with which tricks Vueling works to get pilots.

please check flightinternational.com, with CAT AIR logo on the right!

click further; URL http://www.cae.com/vueling JOB OF THE WEEK

Everybody knows about the bad reputation of this "airline"
Or how can we call a company how pays pilots with bananas?

"If you pay peanuts you will get monkeys" .. an old slogan from the
States.

They prefer to operate low cost with cockpit - salaries.
Can be a reason that month by month captains running away. Last time,
16 in one month!
As we all know there are some rumours in the air about CAT Air and
Vueling.

Is the attention of Vueling to make an illusion for all pilots that
Vueling is the new CAT Air?

Is this the last chance for Vueling to get pilots before the operation collapsed?

Vueling give you "7 reasons to become a Vueling pilot"
I can tell you one (1) not to do it!

1- They lie

By the way; I never applied for a position with Vueling

Best regards, xmad

catair · Post by **catair** » 23 Jun 2006, 19:28

I have tried to find the CaT AiR logo as I was wondering how would it looked like but no chance.

These days as there is alot of talk about the SEPLA strike in Spain I have been wondering the real situation of pilots.

xmad · Post by **xmad** » 23 Jun 2006, 19:34

i`m sorry, it`s not the logo of "CAT AIR", only a picture, written CAT AIR.
check the first page of jobs, flightinternational.com and you will see.
http://www.flightglobal.com/jobs/Search ... sKeywords=

catair · Post by **catair** » 23 Jun 2006, 20:29

Thank you very much!

I tried and tried and I could not find.

I find so strange that everybody uses a name (CATAIR) and that
the commercial name will be another.

It would be funny that the new company had two names:

the official one and the popular one!

Maybe it is clickair but people say catair ...

In Barcelona that happened oft in Franco's time.

Avinguda Diagonal was called Avenida del Generalisimo but

people said just Diagonal.

Post by **airbuske** » 24 Jun 2006, 10:15

The new LCC carrier will take off on the 29th october 2006.

The will fly from Barcelona to Málaga, Sevilla, Valencia and Bilbao
and 8 international destinations.

They will add 13 other spanish destinations between now en 3 years
The international destinations would be Amsterdam, Dublin, Geneva, Zurich, Prague, Lisbon, Oporto and Moscow.
On most of these destinations are operating LCC's except Oporto and Moscow.

The intention is to create 3 or 4 other bases after Barcelona.

Catair, that in fact is the name of the society, but not the one that will appear on its airplanes.

Málaga, Sevilla, Bilbao , Amsterdam and Lisbon are also Vueling destinations. So it seems that Iberia suffered a lot since the start of Vueling.

[Names of destinations changed from Spanish to English - sn26567]

catair · Post by **catair** » 24 Jun 2006, 12:55

Today there is a lot of information about the new catair,
including a map of destinations:

http://www.geocities.com/catalancat/blog.html/93

Post by **airbuske** » 24 Jun 2006, 13:37

catair wrote:Today there is a lot of information about the new catair,
including a map of destinations:

http://www.geocities.com/catalancat/blog.html/93

Thank you very much.

So the other hubs will be A Coruña, Valencia , Sevilla , Bilbao and Malaga ?

Still have some doubts.

All those new destinations , it will cost a lot of money
to start those new destinations.

There are also other LCC operating on some destinations.
Will they survive it ?

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 24 Jun 2006, 15:31

Nice to see Brussels is also on their wish list. Maybe a new LCC for our airport?

catair · Post by **catair** » 24 Jun 2006, 17:55

According to www.elperiodico.es (by the way I love this newspaper because not only it is very visual but it is the only newspaper with two
editions each day: the Catalan one and the Castilian one.) ...

well as I was saying in that newspaper map

.http://www.geocities.com/catalancat/blog.html/93.
you see the hubs of
Coruña, Bilbo, Barcelona, Valencia , Málaga and Sevilla (culturally
very rich places because they represent very different parts of the
peninsula with different languages and so on)

I hope to fly to these places because until now moving through Spain
was very expensive (it is still more expensive and uncomfortable to
go to the pretty city of Cuenca from Barcelona than flying to London.)

They begin with 120 milions euros.

In the map you see they go step by step.
At the beginning from Barcelona there will be only 10 routes.

As you can see in the map the COMMERCIAL NAME OF CATAIR will be decided before ten days.

I have my doubts about Click Air.

It is true that it sounds very international and totally related to
Internet but I find it ...
I do not know. After advertising it (if they choose it!) I will get used.

This morning I was thinking about possible names for the new Catair:

AU (it stands for bird in Catalan)

CEL (it means sky and also heaven in Catalan)

LOVE IS IN THE AIR (REMEMBER THE SONG?)

VENT (it stands for wind in Catalan)

But none of those satisfies me completely.

THE.CAT with a logo of a cat is CLEARLY my choice.[/url]

catair · Post by **catair** » 24 Jul 2006, 23:33

After months of not knowing anything finally this Tuesday 25th July the commercial name of Catair will be finally unveiled. They will tell us who the president of the new company will be.
And maybe and finally they will have a web page where people could contact them ( As the webmaster of www.catair.cat, the unofficial fan site about this new company, I used to received a lot of visitors who might have been looking for the new low-cost)

I am almost certain that the name will be clickair but let just wait some
hours more.

Nevertheless if you visit now www.clickair.com you get the message:

"En clickair estamos puliendo los últimos detalles."

which means they are pulishing the last details ...

Cesare · Post by **Cesare** » 25 Jul 2006, 08:55

When will be start the booking of new route of Clickair?
It will be also route from Spain to Italy? Which one?

airolea · Post by **airolea** » 25 Jul 2006, 13:43

this is a question for everyone but xmad initiated the discussion about the pilots from vueling so maybe he is the best person to answer this question.

is vueling having such a big problems with the pilots?

I have vueling tickets for december and I already had a bad experience with another LCC that went bankrupt just before my flight (Vbird)... shall I worry or do you think that we will have vueling for many years?

oxtatak · Post by **oxtatak** » 26 Jul 2006, 01:38

So, if you now go to www.clickair.com, you can submit your details for cabin and cockpit crew and other jobs... I found the following links:

http://www.clickair.com/TCP_cuestionario.doc for solicitud_TCP@clickair.com and http://www.clickair.com/Pilotos_cuestionario.doc for solicitud_piloto@clickair.com

And then, the press today says that sales start in September.... (http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&ned=u ... 01195.html AND http://news.google.es/news?hl=es&ned=es ... 3D11325877)

Post by **sn26567** » 26 Jul 2006, 09:33

It will be Clickair: https://www.aviation24.be/article12174.html

SN30952 · Post by **SN30952** » 26 Jul 2006, 10:37

sn26567 wrote:It will be Clickair: https://www.aviation24.be/article12174.html

Clickair is soon open for business...cargando indeed
You noticed the steps are still missing the 15years old GRF aircraft....

Correct me if I'm wrong.
Such aircraft were aging in a full service legacy airline, in this case Iberia.
Now it has to operate in a low cost environment.
But are Clickair and Iberia realizing that low costs operate more recent aircraft at very very competitive fares?.

Passengers booking Clickair will quickly experience they are flying Iberia's written off equipment at the same price they could fly LCC's new aircraft. (btw, they noticed already they were paying more when they were buying Iberia tickets and flying the same older aircraft much too expensive. That's why they left for the newer LCC aircraft.... already.)

Passengers will not need donkey's years before they understand that.
Iberia is fighting a young bull, with a semi retired matador, ole!

Noticed Clickair included Moscow in their list. And do you think they can cheat the Russians long time?

Robin_Bamps · Post by **Robin_Bamps** » 26 Jul 2006, 21:46

The animation on their website shows an A300...

The livery they use on that animation is striking though, I hope it will be the real one.

Wait and see...

Regards, Robin Bamps.

Cesare · Post by **Cesare** » 27 Jul 2006, 09:37

Robin_Bamps wrote:The animation on their website shows an A300...

Why show A300? They don't have this plane in fleet.

Whay don't put an animation of a A320, the type of plane they will use?

SN30952 · Post by **SN30952** » 27 Jul 2006, 10:55

Robin_Bamps wrote:The animation on their website shows an A300...Wait and see... Regards, Robin Bamps.

Yes, Robin I noticed that too, hence my link. Not so clever marketing strategy indeed.
Why refer to 16-26-year (almost) old aircraft, a semi-retired matador? Claro mistero?
Good question, Robin & Cesare.
Why show a A300? They don't have this plane in fleet active.
Or is it that they get these stored aircraft back on the tarmac? I cannot believe that!
(Click in the linked page on Airbus A300B4 to see what happened to the Iberia, A300's- impossoble to make a direct from LZ to there)

Aviation24.be

Iberia launches an LCC: Clickair

catair and the commercial name

Vueling / CAT AIR

A CAT AIR LOGO?

logo

thanks a lot!

destinations map of catair

Re: destinations map of catair

LIST OF POSSIBLE NAMES FOR CATAIR

clickair finally ...

is vueling having such a big problems??

They say they are looking for jobs...

a semi retired matador, ole!

Mistero?