SN Brussels' expansion in Africa: it may acquire Camair

Old Nickname - VG · Post by **Old Nickname - VG** » 29 May 2006, 20:34

Can Somebody tell me when this happend:
http://membres.lycos.fr/acatmp/IMAGES/CAMAIR2.jpg

DannyVDB · Post by **DannyVDB** » 30 May 2006, 21:11

We'll need some more time ... I heard or read somewhere (don't know anymore where and don't know if this is correct information - think it was in the Tijd) that SNBA and Kenian Airways are still in the running ...

regards,
Danny

SN_fan · Post by **SN_fan** » 30 May 2006, 23:29

maybe the new name of sn will also depend about this deal

ThomasCook · Post by **ThomasCook** » 31 May 2006, 14:29

It's a bit confusing what all the technical experts on this forum tell about RVSM, planes not having an IRS platform, ....

The only modification needed to comply with the 2007 regulations of Eurocontrol is to send out more parameters then what is done now.

The Mode-S system (with the ATC transponder) sends out parameters of the aircraft (ident, altitude, ...). This is what is called Elementary Surveillance.

Right now, Eurocontrol asks to comply with the Enhanced Surveillance (before March 2007), which means that there will be more parameters sent out to the traffic control radar (SSR) in Mode-S. The intention of Eurocontrol will be a better monitoring of the aircraft (with parameters of the attitude of the aircraft for example).

For an A320 this modification consisted in a wiring addition between several controllers and the ATC transponder. Also, a new ATC transponder should be installed which is capable of sending the Enhanced package of parameters.

As far as I know, an Avro should actually be equipped with an IRS platform. Most of the time an Air Data Computer and IRS platform is combined in one controller.
Secondly, RVSM has nothing to do with these regulations. It's the choice for the operator if they want to fly in the RVSM aerospace or beneath FL290. If they choose not to comply with RVSM, they will just burn more fuel

winglets · Post by **winglets** » 09 Jun 2006, 14:58

http://allafrica.com/stories/200606080327.html

Kenya: CAMAIR : Mixed Feelings as Kenya Airways Withdraws Bid

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 09 Jun 2006, 15:16

Confirmed by a post of yesterday:

https://www.aviation24.be/postt17094.html

Post by **sn26567** » 14 Jun 2006, 09:24

According to this article (in French), only RAM and SN remain in the race, and the author gives the preference to RAM. There is a presentation of the two pretenders.

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 14 Jun 2006, 10:20

The major argument of the author is the proven track record of RAM as it has a majority stake in Air Senegal which is currently in good financial health.

Now, what could be arguments in favour of SNBA? I think it's extensive experience in serving the african market is worth mentioning!

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 14 Jun 2006, 10:25

VG wrote:Can Somebody tell me when this happend:
http://membres.lycos.fr/acatmp/IMAGES/CAMAIR2.jpg

A simple search on A.net gave this as a result:

The accident happened on november 5th 2000 after the thrust reversers only functionned on one side. No injuries mentionned. Plane damaged beyond repair.

Pictures

Tom

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 14 Jun 2006, 10:43

teddybAIR wrote: Now, what could be arguments in favour of SNBA? I think it's extensive experience in serving the african market is worth mentioning!

SN would be able to provide a good link to Europe with some good connections to many european destinations, which RAM won't be able to offer.

BrightCedars · Post by **BrightCedars** » 14 Jun 2006, 12:48

Where it gets interesting is not only in doing BKO/DLA-BRU then spreading to Europe or the way back but also the possibility to do some runs BKO/DLA-PAR/NYC/JNB and all the local connections at BKO/DLA.
By the way, what kind of airport infrasctructure is there at BKO or DLA and what is the most likely hub? I don't think they'd do both but would probably have an link between both.

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 17 Jun 2006, 22:55

At this moment SN is also in talk with countries in Mid Africa and countries around the Great Lakes to set up "possible" actions.

As they earlier have said, they have 10 projects and they will be happy when one of them will succeed.

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 17 Jun 2006, 23:05

Indeed Atlantis. One thing is sure. SN will set up a mini hub with the 6 BAe146's. All we don't know yet is where in Africa.

Chris

SN30952 · Post by **SN30952** » 18 Jun 2006, 00:21

Avro wrote:Indeed Atlantis. One thing is sure. SN will set up a mini hub with the 6 BAe146's. All we don't know yet is where in Africa.

Chris

Flying for MONUC, as I hinted?

natacha737 · Post by **natacha737** » 30 Jun 2006, 08:57

And the winner is...

SN !!!

(see the article in l'Echo)

Greetz

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 30 Jun 2006, 09:08

According to an article in todays Standaard SNBA and the Cameroon governement will start a new airline after the liquidation of Camair. SNBA made it because their ambitions reached further than the ones of RAM. Whereas RAM only wanted to play on the local cameroon market, SNBA showed it's readiness to invest in building up a hub. The Cameroon governement will own 49% of the new airline, while a joint venture between SNBA and cenainvest (central african investment) will own the remaining 51 %. In the near future they will be looking into which assets and which personell will be taken over from Camair.

Good news for SNBA? Depends on the terms and conditions I guess...

Tom

blackhawk · Post by **blackhawk** » 30 Jun 2006, 09:25

in dutch: http://www.tijd.be/mijn_nieuws/ondernem ... Id=2319418

According to Sciott it's not official yet

Post by **sn26567** » 30 Jun 2006, 09:27

In English (on Luchtzak of course): https://www.aviation24.be/article11926.html

In French: http://www.lecho.be/mon_actualite/entre ... Id=2319569

Post by **sn26567** » 30 Jun 2006, 10:20

blackhawk wrote:According to Sciot it's not official yet

That's because his press release isn't ready yet

Le messager, a newspaper of Cameroun in French, gives further details: http://www.lemessager.net/details_artic ... 6&numero=1

Post by **sn26567** » 30 Jun 2006, 13:52

From Cameroon Radio-Television, today:

First Delta Air Services buys 51 percent of shares of Cameroon Airlines.

First Delta Air Services, a consortium comprising SN Brussels Airlines of Belgium ancd Senian Invest, a Cameroonian venture capital fund has been selected as the provisional winning bidder for the purchase of 51 percent of the shares in the new airline company being created to replace the Cameroon Airlines as the national airline of Cameroon.

The information was contained in a release issued by the Minister of the Economy and Finance, Polycarpe Abah Abah.

The release further states that the Cameroon government and First Delta Air Services are expected to sign the transaction documents within ten days.

They will also work together to finalise other legal and operational arrangements for the lunch of the new airline in the coming months.

I wonder what this new airline will eat for lunch

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