Plane on the Pentagon 09/11 ?

Zenfookpower · Post by **Zenfookpower** » 18 May 2006, 16:01

teddybAIR wrote:I repeat my question:

If it was not a plane, than where did N644AA go, and what happened to the souls onboard?

Very good question...May be you all should watch the movie "United 93" . I hope CX will have some of his questions answered...

chunk · Post by **chunk** » 18 May 2006, 17:55

How about you tell us? What is in that movie that we dont already know? Tragic event, lots of dead people and a plane flying to its end. How else does it enlighten us?

Sabena320 · Post by **Sabena320** » 18 May 2006, 18:45

But isn't this clearly a wing? :

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e138/ ... scr012.jpg

Yannick

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 18 May 2006, 19:53

I've saw the documetary about in on NGC.

Why is there no debris?
- the plane was going at least 500 km/wy, so all the pieces of the plane simply went through the first wall because of the enormous speed the plane has. (compare it to the WTC, the entire planes went into the buildings, parts even exited the rear...)

Why is there so little damage?
- When constructed around 1940, the Pentagon was designed to be used as archive after WW II. This means the floors and collums have been reinforced with enormous amounts of steel, to bear the load of the archives wich would be put on it.
- After the Alabama bombing by McVeigh, US government offices were being retrofitted with bomb-resistant glass etc. The wing the plane hit was the first to be renovated, and was finished shortly before the attack. People from the offices above the impact zone actually survived because of these windows, and got out before the part collapsed.

I know US government isn't truthful about everything (understatement), but if you really believe they'd bomb their own military headquarters (and could do so an hour after the first plane hit), I advise you to seek treatment...

smokejumper · Post by **smokejumper** » 18 May 2006, 23:17

I was at the Pentagon about 2 hours after the impact and believe me - it was a plane. You could not identify the type of plane but there were many thousands of airplane pieces lying on the ground. The plane apparently impacted about 30-40 meters in front of the building (as observed from the impact and burn marks) and then slid into the first floor and exploded. The wings apparently folded back and the fuselage penetrated three or four wings (of the 5 in the building). The Pentagon was built in 1941 and was just completing an entire overhaul in 2001. It was essentially a new building, MUCH stronger than when original built. The damaged wings were rebuilt and are even stronger than the 2001 rebuild.

The number of pieces on the ground could not have come from a missile, unless it was the size of a plane (a 757 weighs 115,000 kg. and is 47.3m long with a wingspan of 38m. If it was a missile, it was a very large one!

TexasGuy · Post by **TexasGuy** » 19 May 2006, 03:21

Only missles in the USA arsenal the size of a 757 are nuclear missles, so that kills the missle theory right there............

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 19 May 2006, 19:39

A must read for everyone!

http://www.voltairenet.org/article139203.html

smokejumper · Post by **smokejumper** » 19 May 2006, 21:48

loadmaster747 wrote:Interessant link,

Anyway, two versions will remain, those who say "it's true" & those who say "it's not true".
In fact there's a lot of mistery:

-The width of the Impact on pentagon's wall.
-Explosion blasts directions.(mostly to the sky, instead of spreading around the impact point)
-Small amount of AC debris found.
-Very low flying AC.(few inches above ground)
-Non-availability of any other video sources.(including pentagon's own camera sources)

Let's close this topic otherwise we'll be submerged of polemics, what do you think?

On 11/09/2001, I was working in an office about 500 meters from the West Side of the Pentagon. When I heard that the Pentagon had been struck by a plane and was on fire, I quickly went to the scene. I immediately noticed a large amount of debris and saw where the impact occurred, about 40 meters from the building. A plane caused the damage; had it been a missile, it was a very large missile with many, many tons of fuel on board! I assumed that the plane had missed its’ approach to National Airport, about 1,000 meters down river.

The smell of burning jet fuel was all over. There was NO smell of an explosive detonation, only kerosene. Many who believe in a broad US conspiracy point out the lack of a number of video films of the impact, showing the impact. The Pentagon’s video surveillance equipment was (since changed) a narrow band, freeze-frame system designed to pick up slow moving things, like automobiles and people. A plane traveling at 250 mph might make it into only 1 frame.

As to the charge that the impact area is not the size of a Boeing 757, I do not know how to answer this. The impact hole in the Pentagon’s wall was large and the wreckage bored through 3 wings of the just completed rehabilitation and reinforcement of the building. Frankly, I am amazed that a 757 could do as much damage as this plane did. When it hit the exterior wall, the wings just snapped back and the fuel exploded. The fuselage (diameter 12’ 4” or 3.7 meters) plowed through the building, which has since been rebuilt and further reinforced.

I do not know where these conspiracies start, but I am amazed by the lack of judgment some people exhibit when confronted by facts and evidence.

JoNnika · Post by **JoNnika** » 21 May 2006, 20:26

I for one DO think it's a hijacked aircraft that hit the pentagon but there was one thing i didn't understand.

If you see pictures of the pentagon taken the day after the impact it shows that the impact whole in the pentagon is to small to fit a 757 in it, just the fuselage would fit in there.

I think the aircraft was already disintegrating BEFORE it hit the pentagon wall because it actually crashed about 40 meters before the pentagon, at the ground impact side, then the disintegrated aircraft slided it's way thruw the pentagon walls, that could also explain the videos showing only a small piece, not the whole 757.

Regards.

A318 · Post by **A318** » 21 May 2006, 21:50

The people that brought in the story that it was not a airplane and the whole attack was setup by the US itself were the left anti US groups.
I can not even believe this discussion again!!!
9/11 was a very said day and affected everybody it's life.
Nobody hides a plane and a couple of hundred people, just like TeddyBair said.

Amen

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 22 May 2006, 01:37

An interesting documentary!

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ose+change

fleabyte · Post by **fleabyte** » 23 May 2006, 01:28

there is video from the bureau of engraving and printing of the plane as it approaches the pentagon. Realize that the parking lot video is 2 frames per second security camera, not broadcast quality.

David747 · Post by **David747** » 27 May 2006, 20:13

People, people, there was no plane at the Pentagon, what we saw in the video was a missile that mysteriously looked like a Boeing 757-200. This missile was oddly enough developed by Boeing, and it was called Boeing Missile 757. We all know it was those guys at the Pentagon that decided to blow up their own building. :jump2:

Zenfookpower · Post by **Zenfookpower** » 27 May 2006, 22:20

chunk wrote:How about you tell us? What is in that movie that we dont already know? Tragic event, lots of dead people and a plane flying to its end. How else does it enlighten us?

Just go and see the movie..