Flying to Tokyo from Brussels

Allnipponairways · Post by **Allnipponairways** » 29 Oct 2003, 22:52

Yeah well cargo is not pax yet hee...

greets flying cobra

L-1011 · Post by **L-1011** » 29 Oct 2003, 23:22

Apparently BRU and Belgium in general is getting more and more "loved" by cargo operators:!:
Is it because of our central european position or rather the congestion of the surrounding big airports

ciao,
TriStar

Allnipponairways · Post by **Allnipponairways** » 30 Oct 2003, 07:36

Yes that would be nice more cargo operations ... and it would help the economy because asian cargo bring in a lot of work and money ... but from where there going to fly and to where there going to fly ... and is there maybe an options to do passenger flights to tokyo or osaka ...

greets

flying cobra

Post by **sn26567** » 30 Oct 2003, 08:33

Allnipponairways wrote:asian cargo bring in a lot of work and money a

Asian cargo also brings a lot of trouble: yesterday, like many other days, the customs at BRUcargo found a lot of counterfeit articles coming from China: watches, designer clothes, computer programmes, etc.

There is also VAT fraud on Asian goods which are suppopsed to be in transit in Brussels (false papers show export to another EU country, thus avoiding VAT), but are in fact delivered in Belgium.

Post by **sn26567** » 30 Oct 2003, 08:38

Allnipponairways wrote:Did any of you guys or girls ever flew ANA , from LHR , CDG of FRA, and ever seen UK crew on board ...

Cobra,

The only time I flew ANA was on a domestic route in Japan, between Haneda (the other Tokyo airport) and Osaka. It was one of the hourly B747s, packed to the ceiling, those whose landing gear had been reinforced because of the many landings...

Never seen such a crowd on a 747...

Allnipponairways · Post by **Allnipponairways** » 30 Oct 2003, 11:28

He japanese like to travell ... i have always full 747-400 ... sometimes i even wonder where they get the money to travell all the time even when the economy is down the draine ...

greets

flying cobra

Post by **sn26567** » 30 Oct 2003, 13:09

Allnipponairways wrote:He japanese like to travell ... i have always full 747-400 ... sometimes i even wonder where they get the money to travell all the time even when the economy is down the draine ...

I am sure you know that Japanese have very little vacation: one week at the most. So they can save a whole year for that week.

Another factor: companies compensate their managers for the lack of vacation by offering them "business trips" abroad. Little business, but much trip.

777 · Post by **777** » 30 Oct 2003, 13:18

sn26567 wrote:Another factor: companies compensate their managers for the lack of vacation by offering them "business trips" abroad. Little business, but much trip.

That's right André. Indeed for japanese their trip to for example Europe
is considered as a business trip.

They mostly spend their vacation in their home country.

Many people do not understand this mentality.

see you

andre

744rules · Post by **744rules** » 30 Oct 2003, 15:02

Frederic,

as I said , just rumours.

This company is not even planning flights ex Belgium, but mainly ex Germany to the far/middle east.
Got no further details, as the guy got more Maes then he could handle. At that time ( 2 weeks ago), there was not even a name for the company

Allnipponairways · Post by **Allnipponairways** » 31 Oct 2003, 22:48

Does anybody seen in the newspaper about a month ago ... SNBA seeks a partner in asia ... has anybody this report and if so can you please put it on the net ... ( HET LAATSTE NIEUWS )

greets

flying cobra

liebensd · Post by **liebensd** » 01 Nov 2003, 18:49

Allnipponairways wrote:SNBA seeks a partner in asia

I have heard that to, but on Kanaal-Z I think.

Greetz,

Dave

Allnipponairways · Post by **Allnipponairways** » 01 Nov 2003, 21:13

hopefully they will start again very soon , it might be ok because then maybe i can fly from BRU to TYO on holliday

greets

flying cobra

Allnipponairways · Post by **Allnipponairways** » 03 Nov 2003, 15:50

people find out some more information ok , i would like it if its true or not ,,, its been on tv ...

greets

flying cobra

Allnipponairways · Post by **Allnipponairways** » 19 Dec 2003, 01:18

Anything new about this topic possible , dont we have any high office people from the airport +++///....

Allnipponairways · Post by **Allnipponairways** » 04 Feb 2004, 01:01

just a reminder , i heard that ANA still pays for a slot in BRU so are the sn going to pick it up or is somebidy going to fly BRU - NRT in the near future >>> any one has heard about some things <>>>???

greets

flying cobra - japan

AirDupont · Post by **AirDupont** » 04 Feb 2004, 08:11

The problem is not BRU but NRT, there are no more slots available. Have you not noticed that most airlines already depart with a delay, same goes for LHR

Greetz

SilverJET · Post by **SilverJET** » 04 Feb 2004, 09:46

I love to see ANA 744's landing on RWY 25L @ BRU

L-1011 · Post by **L-1011** » 04 Feb 2004, 23:00

What credible alternative do they have to NRT

ciao,
TriStar

Allnipponairways · Post by **Allnipponairways** » 05 Feb 2004, 15:07

hopefully nrt will be expanding then so more slots can come available so then we can fly on bru air dupont ...for the rest have nice flights all ,...

greets

flying cobra @ FRA

Badabing · Post by **Badabing** » 05 Feb 2004, 15:17

Lyulka wrote:Brussels - Tokyo aircraft which are full? Some time ago somewhere on the forum when the Sabena Brussels - Tokyo flight was mentioned it was told beiing unprofitable!

Sadly, full does not mean profitable.

Brussels - Tokyo doesn't show a high yield factor. You can compare the situation to Johannesburg. Sabena had many passengers on these routes, but even then they were not profitable.

These routes are probably among the first long hauls to return to BRU when times get better. But we're not there yet.

Much depends on the general cost of a certain operation and a whole range of variables. A high seat occupancy is an important element to contribute to success, but not the only one.