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Avro wrote:
Ovostar wrote: For what purpose was this concorde painted like that ?
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For a movie.

But I don't remember the title :oops:
Yes!!! for the movie Airport '79... but was called Airport '80 in Europe, because released one year after in Europe... And in france it was "Sos Concorde"

You have a fun review here: http://www.airdisaster.com/forums/showt ... ight=flare

it seems the air france concorde painted for the movie, is the concorde that crashed in Paris...

Anyway YOUR TURN AVRO!!!

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Why are engine intakes of wing mounted engines often inclined downwards with an angle of 5°. ?

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Has it something to do with the physical law of Bernouilli? In order to create pressure above the wings which is bigger then under the wings and then you have lift? (or something like that... 8O :lol: )

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SN_Bigbirdy wrote:Has it something to do with the physical law of Bernouilli? In order to create pressure above the wings which is bigger then under the wings and then you have lift? (or something like that... 8O :lol: )


No it has nothing to do with that. By the way, on the upper surface of the wing you have an under pressure - so you don't create pressure in that sense but reduce it ;) . But that's another story :p

To come back to the question. Here a link to a picture where one can clearly see that the intake area (also called the highlight area) is not aligned with the vertical. It is inclined downwards (more or less 5°)

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/0990926/L/

This is only the case for wing mounted engines.

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Has it something to do with shockwaves in the Air intake?
Shock waves in the airintake happen also with subsonic aircrafts (from around M0,80)

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realplaneshaveprops wrote:Has it something to do with shockwaves in the Air intake?
Shock waves in the airintake happen also with subsonic aircrafts (from around M0,80)

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Not at all.

Indeed strong shockwaves appear as of approximately M 0.8 .
But it's not because of that.

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Nobody ?

There are two main reasons.

One of them is for high angle of attack /one engine out flights.

Now what could the second one be ? ;) (that one is easier)

HINT: think of the flow around a wing.

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Because of the upflow of air in front of the leading edge?

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The same happens after the trailing edge, there is the downwash

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That's it Koen. It's because of the upwash in front of the wing. By inclining the intake surface by approximately 5° (it depends on a/c type) the flow will be more perpendicular to the surface than otherwise.

As for the high angle of attack one engine out condition, the intention is to prevent flow separation at the outside upper lip and inside lower lip of the intake.

Sometimes you'll see engines (like the inner ones on the A380) which are a little bit inclined towards the fuselage as well. The reason for this is also to make the flow come more perpendicular to the intake surface.

As for rear mounted engines, well they are 1: further away of the downwash while wing mounted engines are closer to the upwash. and 2: the high aoa/ one engine out condition will and the downwash effect more or less compensate for each other while they amplify for wing mounted engines.

Your turn Koen

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The B-17G was introduced onto the Fortress production line in July of 1943, and was destined to be produced in larger numbers than any other Fortress variant. The most readily-noticeable innovation introduced by the B-17G was .......?

Another innovation introduced by the G was .....?

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It's nog that difficult, just a brief search will give you the answers

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Yes, first part is correct

The most readily-noticeable innovation introduced by the B-17G was the power-operated Bendix turret mounted in a chin-type installation underneath the nose. This turret was equipped with two 0.50-inch machine guns. This installation had first been tested in combat by the YB-40 and was found to be the only viable innovation introduced by the unsuccessful escort Fortress.

But the second part is still open: Another innovation introduced by the G was ....

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Another innovation introduced by the G was having the waist guns being permanently enclosed behind windows instead of being mounted behind removable hatches. This made the rear fuselage somewhat less drafty.

This was the second part I needed.

Jan_olieslagers, you found the first part, you're next

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There was another innovation; In the 'f' version, the waist gunners were accross from each other and they often got in each others way when shooting.

In the 'g' version, the waist gunner positions were staggered.

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Jan? Are you here? ;)
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as it is from the beginning of april that there has been any movement in this topic: an easy one to re-launch the game

Dassault has a "baby-jet" in its biz-jets assortment;

> what's the type?
> there are two "sub-types"(as far as I know). Give the names and and characteristics how to recognize them

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Part 1: Dassault Mystère/Falcon
Part 2: 20 and 200, 200 has a little "tube" on the front of the tailfin and has "cones" coming out of the engine. The 20 doesn't
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Not talking about the 20-series. Those are not a Sub-type of the baby-jet...

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