Near Miss? You Decide - 6 pictures

CXRules · Post by **CXRules** » 30 Jan 2006, 20:38

http://www.sky.com/skynews/picture_gall ... -1,00.html

burner737 · Post by **burner737** » 30 Jan 2006, 20:43

That's Really close !!! And was that a belgian DHL ?

regards Tim

teach · Post by **teach** » 30 Jan 2006, 20:49

Nothing even close to a near miss. The planes are at least 1000 ft apart vertically. No incidents were reported over London that day, this is just yet again proof that one's eyes can betray them once in a while.

SN_fan · Post by **SN_fan** » 30 Jan 2006, 20:57

If someone know wich types they are you might see that they arn't in the proportions???

teach · Post by **teach** » 30 Jan 2006, 21:01

The DHL is and A300B4, the JAL a 777-300ER.

pilatus · Post by **pilatus** » 30 Jan 2006, 22:40

Indeed, no near miss.

Crew was contacted before press release to check what happened. They didn't know about what we were talking about

I think the photographer tried to get some money out of it;

Regards,

DiverDriver

MX727 · Post by **MX727** » 30 Jan 2006, 22:42

"It is impossible to tell from the ground how close aircraft are in the air"

Looks like an optical ilussion to me.

Regards,
JAHC

Captain · Post by **Captain** » 30 Jan 2006, 23:59

I was in London on the weekend and can confirm the weather was a perfect winter day with not a single cloud + lot's of visibility.

I often notice when you fly to Heathrow and your kept in a holding pattern over the east end, that you often see other aircrafts not very far away. The skies are so congested that the ATC keeps them to the max allowed distance.

This incident was more of a scare from the ground than a real danger for both planes.

Post by **speedbird1** » 31 Jan 2006, 09:57

Nice post title... There was me thinking you had 6 pictures of the aircaft...!

Emirates

mafrick · Post by **mafrick** » 31 Jan 2006, 10:01

There are 6 pics. You just have to click on the "next" button

Post by **speedbird1** » 31 Jan 2006, 10:44

mafrick wrote:There are 6 pics. You just have to click on the "next" button

Yes I know, but do you notice one thing...? They are all the same!

Emirates

mafrick · Post by **mafrick** » 31 Jan 2006, 10:49

No, they are not all the same. If you look closely you will see a difference between the pictures, fe the distance from the DHL nose and the tail of the 777.

Advisor · Post by **Advisor** » 31 Jan 2006, 10:54

Emirates wrote:
mafrick wrote:There are 6 pics. You just have to click on the "next" button
Yes I know, but do you notice one thing...? They are all the same!

Emirates

This near miss is scary Chief

Post by **speedbird1** » 31 Jan 2006, 10:56

mafrick wrote:No, they are not all the same. If you look closely you will see a difference between the pictures, fe the distance from the DHL nose and the tail of the 777.

I am sorry they are indeed different. I think it was just that they are obviously taken on a 6 frame burst or something. I was just expecting some new pics not just (a) the ones that are over all the papers and (b) ones that are minisculely different. Pardon me

Emirates

FedEx · Post by **FedEx** » 31 Jan 2006, 17:56

Reported in todays new papers,
The Japan Airlines Boeing 777 was actually 1,000ft higher than the DHL Airbus A300. It was also 3,198ft away from the other plane.

But the angle for shocked watchers on the ground meant the Heathrow-bound jets appeared as if they were almost touching.

The two planes were not breaking any strict rules for the minimum distances between aircraft.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objecti ... _page.html

Zorba · Post by **Zorba** » 31 Jan 2006, 17:59

As always ... These rules are there for something, everyone calls a "close" (2000ft?) encounter between 2 planes a near miss ...

Knight255 · Post by **Knight255** » 01 Feb 2006, 00:17

everyone calls a "close" (2000ft?) encounter

RVSM airspace allows 1,000ft. pending certain equipment on each airliner is operable.

Zorba · Post by **Zorba** » 01 Feb 2006, 13:47

Knight255 wrote:
everyone calls a "close" (2000ft?) encounter

RVSM airspace allows 1,000ft. pending certain equipment on each airliner is operable.

I know ... I was just trying to say people overreact too much.

vc-10 · Post by **vc-10** » 01 Feb 2006, 20:00

can a plane be 1000 verticaly apart in cruise? ie a 744 overtaking a 767, the 744 on FL360, the 767 on FL370?

Knight255 · Post by **Knight255** » 02 Feb 2006, 03:51

can a plane be 1000 verticaly apart in cruise? ie a 744 overtaking a 767, the 744 on FL360, the 767 on FL370?

Depends on where you are. Oceanic routes everyone at certain flight levels MUST fly at the same Mach number. In radar contact, I guess anything is possible.

And yes, people do overreact waaaaay too much. :shakehead: