Aeroflot may have finally decided on renewal

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 27 Dec 2005, 12:41

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory?id=1444509

KT

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if you get to use the plane again, its a great landing.

twinsen · Post by **twinsen** » 27 Dec 2005, 14:41

Great news! But I'll guess we'll still be seeing their A320's land and depart at Zaventem, won't we?

Edit: Aeroflot uses A319's between Brussels and Sheremetyevo (2nd airport at Moscow). Correct me if I'm wrong

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 27 Dec 2005, 21:45

twinsen wrote:Great news! But I'll guess we'll still be seeing their A320's land and depart at Zaventem, won't we?

Edit: Aeroflot uses A319's between Brussels and Sheremetyevo (2nd airport at Moscow). Correct me if I'm wrong

What's the link with the announcement of Aeroflot? You are right, Aeroflot is flying with A319 at BRU, but I don't see a link to use the A320.

twinsen · Post by **twinsen** » 28 Dec 2005, 15:21

Atlantis wrote:
twinsen wrote:Great news! But I'll guess we'll still be seeing their A320's land and depart at Zaventem, won't we?

Edit: Aeroflot uses A319's between Brussels and Sheremetyevo (2nd airport at Moscow). Correct me if I'm wrong
What's the link with the announcement of Aeroflot? You are right, Aeroflot is flying with A319 at BRU, but I don't see a link to use the A320.

Well, I said A320's, bit I meant A319's between Brussels & Moscow.. The link is, that I don't expect to see any of those newly ordered planes at Brussels, do you understand?

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 28 Dec 2005, 17:15

Ok, now it's clear.

fleabyte · Post by **fleabyte** » 03 Jan 2006, 17:09

http://www.flightinternational.com/Arti ... kage+.html

"Russia considers Airbus co-operation package
EADS has submitted to the Russian government a package of proposals aimed at expanding the scope of co-operation on civil programmes between Russian industry and the European manufacturer.

Under the plans, Russia would become a risk-sharing partner in the Airbus A350, take the role of “lead partner” in a potential A320 passenger-to-freighter conversion programme and participate in possible development of an unspecified next-generation Airbus airliner, says Vadim Vlasov, general director of EADS’s Russian arm OOO EADS.

However, securing the work packages is likely to be dependent on Aeroflot selecting the A350 over the rival Boeing 787 to satisfy its requirement for up to 30 new long-range widebody twinjets.

Vlasov says the A320 conversion work could provide a “multi-billion dollar turnover” for Russian industry. “It is interesting work from the standpoint of economics and also requiring a considerable engineering and technological input,” he says. “There is a big chance that A320s coming in for freighter conversion will require D checks. If a Russian company is doing both conversions and D checks, it will mean extra earnings for the Russian industry.” Russia may also be given exclusive rights for converted A320 family aircraft delivered to CIS and Middle East operators."

Sounds like Airbus is back in the game at Aeroflot

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 03 Jan 2006, 17:41

Aeroflot has decided on Boeings 787

models to be announced

http://www.flightinternational.com/Arti ... ction.html

DFW · Post by **DFW** » 03 Jan 2006, 21:30

About 70 years ago, the US government forced Boeing to split into two companies -- the predecessors of what are today the Boeing Company and United Airlines. I think Pratt & Whitney was also in that mix, but it's been a long time since I sat in the Boeing New Hire class. Anyways, the reasoning was that it was in the best interest of promoting aviation to foster healthy competition in airplane manufacturing. Airlines should buy the best airplanes possible. This benefits the customer.

Now that there are effectively only two manufacturers of 100+ passenger aircraft, it's rather disturbing that this philosophy is being reversed. Both A and B are unashamedly trying to win competitions through political means. If airlines don't buy airplanes because they are competitive products, the flying public suffers.

A350_scout · Post by **A350_scout** » 13 Jan 2006, 10:47

It looks as though Aeroflot has done an about turn and decided to order the A350 instead. Ahhh what politics can do to an airline business.

BP · Post by BP » 13 Jan 2006, 19:03

A350_scout wrote:It looks as though Aeroflot has done an about turn and decided to order the A350 instead. Ahhh what politics can do to an airline business.

Nothing official. Lets just wait until Tuesday, when Airbus will announce their order tally for 2005 and if they have indeed reached their objective of 200 A350 orders and Commitments by year end. We may then get a clarification in regards to this order.

Regards,
BP

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 01 Feb 2006, 22:17

Aeroflot has officially announced their decision to order from Boeing.

http://www.kommersant.com/page.asp?idr=528&id=645481

MX727 · Post by **MX727** » 02 Feb 2006, 01:53

mmm......I think I'll wait to believe it when I see it in Boeing's website. Anyhow, the 787 would look wonderful in Aeroflot's livery.

On the other hand, it is going to be sad to see the TU-154 leave the fleet.

Regards,
JAHC

regi · Post by **regi** » 18 Mar 2006, 00:46

whatever is said about a decision, according to this russian newspaper it is delayed - again.
http://www.moscowtimes.ru/stories/2006/03/17/042.html

fleabyte · Post by **fleabyte** » 22 Mar 2006, 21:02

http://www.flightglobal.com/Articles/20 ... share.html

burner737 · Post by **burner737** » 22 Mar 2006, 21:23

I've heard that Aeroflot is also getting some used MD-11s (freighters) can somebody confirm this ?

Regards Tim

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 22 Mar 2006, 22:32

the excerpt from the article mentions MD-11's although it doesn't specify if they are new or used.

Actually, the package offer made by Boeing to Aeroflot provides for delivery of MD-11 freight carries along with Boeing 787. Aeroflot needs MD-11 to replace the DC10-40F currently available in its fleet. Although no details of the deal have been officially disclosed so far, the consignment is said to include at least 22 Boeing 787s worth $2 billion. The catalogue cost of each plane is $130 million.

tolipanebas · Post by **tolipanebas** » 22 Mar 2006, 22:38

The fact that the MD-11 deal has been separated from the 787 deal makes me think SU wants to have it's hands free to make a decision...possibly a split order.

Buzz · Post by **Buzz** » 22 Mar 2006, 23:43

bits44 wrote:the excerpt from the article mentions MD-11's although it doesn't specify if they are new or used.

Sadly the MD11 line shut down in the beginning of 2001, so they'll be used...

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 23 Mar 2006, 17:29

Aeroflot has placed its order for MD-11's

http://en.rian.ru/business/20060323/44715824.html

RC20 · Post by **RC20** » 23 Mar 2006, 22:21

DFW wrote:. Airlines should buy the best airplanes possible. This benefits the customer.

Now that there are effectively only two manufacturers of 100+ passenger aircraft, it's rather disturbing that this philosophy is being reversed. Both A and B are unashamedly trying to win competitions through political means. If airlines don't buy airplanes because they are competitive products, the flying public suffers.

Politics has always been and will be a feature of this. Agreed its a lousy thing, but thats the way it goes. China is a case in point, they are playing both side against each other, and you can bet they hope to have their own product to compete.

It has gotten worse, and Airbus is really going over the line in opening up a produciton line in China (and I felt the same way about MD).

Of course Chinda gets a soone to be obsolete aircraft type as they did with MD.

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Aeroflot may have finally decided on renewal

Aeroflot may have finally decided on renewal

Russia considers Airbus co-operation package

I read this as good for 787 and bad for A350