China poised for big A320 order (150 aircraft)

Lutonavia · Post by **Lutonavia** » 03 Dec 2005, 00:43

http://www.flightinternational.com/Arti ... +week.html

I read earlier that china was about to purchase 70 but since the article suggests upto 150 i thought id make a new topic for such a huge order.

C

FedEx · Post by **FedEx** » 03 Dec 2005, 11:56

Great news for Airbus

FedEx

ryanCX · Post by **ryanCX** » 03 Dec 2005, 13:42

I know that China have placed big orders for Boeing aircrafts, but I think its pretty safe for me to say that they still favour Airbus over Boeing...

and yea great news for Airbus though!

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 03 Dec 2005, 13:48

I expect an order of around 80 aircraft, actually. They allready ordered 70 b737's and were expected to order 80 more. They probably decided to switch from boeing to airbus and order the remaining 80 aircraft with airbus.

Just my 2 cents though

bAIR

Lutonavia · Post by **Lutonavia** » 03 Dec 2005, 16:30

Cool so why do you think only 80 if there they say around 150... Im not saying you may not be right just intrested as to why you think differently.

Thanks

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 03 Dec 2005, 19:43

Because the initial intent appears to be to purchase 150 aircraft of the boeing 737 family. However, they only bought 70 of them, combined with an intent to purchase another 80 in the future...and now, they intent to buy new aircraft with approx. the same capabilities. Thus, I relied on advanced mathematics and calculated 150(initial intent) - 70(previous order) = 80(my forecast for airbus order)

I'm not saying this is correct, just giving my forecast based on what I read

teddybAIR · Post by **teddybAIR** » 05 Dec 2005, 07:16

I heard on the radionews (radio 1) last night that an order was confirmed for 70 aircraft + a first ever declaration by airbus that they would start producing their a part of their aircraft outside europe, in china!

bAIR

CX · Post by CX » 05 Dec 2005, 11:07

News says it's 100 aircraft...
i'm in Hong Kong so i think the news here is accurate.

Boeing767copilot · Post by **Boeing767copilot** » 05 Dec 2005, 13:59

Airbus is setting a new record in its 20 years of close cooperation with the Chinese civil aviation industry by signing a General Terms Agreement (GTA) for the purchase of 150 A320 family aircraft. The 150 aircraft will be delivered to six Chinese airlines, including Air China, China Eastern Airlines, China Southern Airlines, Sichuan Airlines, Shenzhen Airlines, and Hainan Airlines.

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 05 Dec 2005, 14:29

China has placed an order for Airbus A320's

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/12/05/ ... airbus.php

boeing797 · Post by **boeing797** » 05 Dec 2005, 14:30

No surprising. After Airbus announced it will set up a final assembly line in China, China returns a favor by placing a big order. Airbus is happy now. But the battle between B777 and A340 to win order from Qantas seems a crucial one for Airbus. My bet is Qantas will go for Airbus since after loosing to win orders from Emirates and Cathay, and probably SIA Airbus has no choice but taking loss of profits to win Qantas.

Ciao

CX · Post by CX » 05 Dec 2005, 14:47

Sorry China did indeed take 150 A320s...

It seems like Airbus has offered some serious discounts on the A340 to make it 'so competitive' to the 777 because for other airlines it seems like a no brainer 777... I wonder whether Airbus is offering the current A340s or the A345E/A346E which wont' be in service until 2011... However although i hope Airbus will win QF, QF did request Boeing to develop the 772 advanced range or something which can fly the moon distance, so, sadly, i must admit i think QF will go for Boeing afterall...

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 05 Dec 2005, 19:51

Very good news for Airbus. Congratulations

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 05 Dec 2005, 19:58

teddybAIR wrote:I expect an order of around 80 aircraft, actually. They allready ordered 70 b737's and were expected to order 80 more. They probably decided to switch from boeing to airbus and order the remaining 80 aircraft with airbus.

Just my 2 cents though

bAIR

actually the Boeing deal is still ongoing and this order is not a replacement.
The Chinese being wise in the ways of business, usually plays both ends against the middle, an ancient chinese proverb says.

KT

earthman · Post by **earthman** » 05 Dec 2005, 20:17

Is it not possible that they order from two different manufacturers to get more aircraft sooner?

CX · Post by CX » 06 Dec 2005, 02:11

No, the Boeing order was to improve the trade deficit between China and US...

regi · Post by **regi** » 06 Dec 2005, 18:46

it is good news for everybody: Airbus, China and even Boeing. Monopolies are destructive in the future.
And the chinese, they get their planes (some) for the Olympics, the big boom for international contacts.

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 06 Dec 2005, 18:51

Here's a bit of stunning news, China has not ordered any aircraft at all.

Airbus has confirmed that yesterday's agreement with China was preliminary, and that it does not yet have any actual orders for the aircraft.

http://www.forbes.com/markets/feeds/afx ... 71339.html