another problem with the TU204 is the number of crew they carry around ,this aircraft must have a crew of 4 or 5!
TNT was planning to get a whole fleet of them but that never happened ,i guess there was a reason for that.
Neil
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seems crazy to me.
Hello all,
The two Airbuses A300 are two EX American DHL aircrafts, Regs I don't know.
Second hand A300B4F are not so easy to find especially those with hydraulic main cargo door, the ones with an electrical door are more easy to find but are not as reliable (maintenance) as the other (and yes the the two american ones have an electrical one....
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If you compare the operation cost of an A300B4F to an 757SF, the Airbus is much cheaper...
By the way, the 757s goes to India...
About the Tupolev, with TNT is that aircraft used for Ad-hoc charters, and is reported to be very reliable, they are planning to get at least two more in the future...(operated by Air Cairo I think)
My last comment on this topic, my opinion about BRU hub after 2008, I think they don't even know thereself what going to happen with it, Im not gona say they are staying with a lot of movements, a certain amount will stay for first of all to sort the cargo whenever the other hubs connot take the packages...yet ,...and second to sort the packages for Belguim itself...
Latest news in the DHL network is that the CGN(cologne) hub will be closed in the second quarter of 2007, to... Leipzig
Greets
Ronny
The two Airbuses A300 are two EX American DHL aircrafts, Regs I don't know.
Second hand A300B4F are not so easy to find especially those with hydraulic main cargo door, the ones with an electrical door are more easy to find but are not as reliable (maintenance) as the other (and yes the the two american ones have an electrical one....
) If you compare the operation cost of an A300B4F to an 757SF, the Airbus is much cheaper...
By the way, the 757s goes to India...
About the Tupolev, with TNT is that aircraft used for Ad-hoc charters, and is reported to be very reliable, they are planning to get at least two more in the future...(operated by Air Cairo I think)
My last comment on this topic, my opinion about BRU hub after 2008, I think they don't even know thereself what going to happen with it, Im not gona say they are staying with a lot of movements, a certain amount will stay for first of all to sort the cargo whenever the other hubs connot take the packages...yet ,...and second to sort the packages for Belguim itself...
Latest news in the DHL network is that the CGN(cologne) hub will be closed in the second quarter of 2007, to... Leipzig
Greets
Ronny
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Hello
I also find it weird that the Tu-204F would need up to 5 crewmembers. I thought it was modern enough to compete with the B757. Isn't it from the years '80? I either wouldn't know where all those 5 crewmembers would be during the flight. The Tu-204F is very comparable with the size of the B757F and I guess the cockpit want be much bigger so...wondering whetter it's true.
About the A300F , I do think for the moment it's still the best option for DHL. Considering they don't need to make any big investments in the near future for their (small) BRU hub , because they will anyway buy newer planes in the future , but not so soon. The A300 has good capacity is reliable and is good what concerns price , not to expensive. All these factors make that until shortly operators where still begging Airbus to make more A300F's but Airbus said it will actually stop producing (or rather converting) A300's. So I'm sure DHL would be still interested in newer A300's but it's already too late. The same you can see at TNT at Liège , they also keep their A300's in service as long as possible , until they are probably totally worn out. I think this proves the A300 to be a outstanding freighter plane.
Best regards: Yannick
I also find it weird that the Tu-204F would need up to 5 crewmembers. I thought it was modern enough to compete with the B757. Isn't it from the years '80? I either wouldn't know where all those 5 crewmembers would be during the flight. The Tu-204F is very comparable with the size of the B757F and I guess the cockpit want be much bigger so...wondering whetter it's true.
Yes indeed! And most propably THEY WILL buy the B777F , IF at least the program WILL be launched , find it takes pretty long time just to launch a freighter version of the B777 , weird for a plane already flying from early '90s I think. But it's to late for BRU , they already move to Leipzig so...Why not the new freight version of the B777F? Remember the talks when DHL announced that they wants to expand on BRU. The government was asking at DHL, EAT, to replace the fleet by B777.
About the A300F , I do think for the moment it's still the best option for DHL. Considering they don't need to make any big investments in the near future for their (small) BRU hub , because they will anyway buy newer planes in the future , but not so soon. The A300 has good capacity is reliable and is good what concerns price , not to expensive. All these factors make that until shortly operators where still begging Airbus to make more A300F's but Airbus said it will actually stop producing (or rather converting) A300's. So I'm sure DHL would be still interested in newer A300's but it's already too late. The same you can see at TNT at Liège , they also keep their A300's in service as long as possible , until they are probably totally worn out. I think this proves the A300 to be a outstanding freighter plane.
Best regards: Yannick
No problem freighter86. I can't give you the exact date for the move to Leipzig, EAT or DHL people has to do this.Freighter86 wrote:Sorry for bringing up this old stuff again,
but are there now any precise dates when the operations from Cologne and Brussels are transferred to the new Hub Leipzig?
But the only thing I can say 100% is that 2007 will be THE YEAR for DHL's biggest concurrent TNT.
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I'm a bit sad that so much people write so much crap on this forum!
Indeed, a TU-204 doesn't has the need to have so much crew on board!
Some types are even equipped with belgian-made (Barco) equipment... We should be proud of it!
And if you install an FMS, that doesn't mean that you remove your INS/IRS... Even with GPS we still have IRS systems installed in aircraft. Even in the Airbus we have still IRS, FMS and GPS on board (for example an A320!)
SO, if you post other "technical" issues, please think before you send!
Indeed, a TU-204 doesn't has the need to have so much crew on board!
Some types are even equipped with belgian-made (Barco) equipment... We should be proud of it!
And if you install an FMS, that doesn't mean that you remove your INS/IRS... Even with GPS we still have IRS systems installed in aircraft. Even in the Airbus we have still IRS, FMS and GPS on board (for example an A320!)
SO, if you post other "technical" issues, please think before you send!
Oktober, november this Year will the Cologne hub be closed.Freighter86 wrote:Sorry for bringing up this old stuff again,
but are there now any precise dates when the operations from Cologne and Brussels are transferred to the new Hub Leipzig?
But 100 % sure is never in this industry until if you see it happens.
Just FYI,
During second quarter of this year the 15de A300 will be added to the fleet.
Not official confirmed there will be about 3 even 4 more added later on. All the A300 will be equipped with FMS ASAP thought in a first stage still with the classic HSI. Later on the HSI will be replaced by a electronic one (screen with map function etc) and later on ACARS will follow. The last step will be the replacement of the HAS's with laser giros, as the present HAS's need a replacement every 250 hours if they want the A300 be CAT III (presently CAT II)
During second quarter of this year the 15de A300 will be added to the fleet.
Not official confirmed there will be about 3 even 4 more added later on. All the A300 will be equipped with FMS ASAP thought in a first stage still with the classic HSI. Later on the HSI will be replaced by a electronic one (screen with map function etc) and later on ACARS will follow. The last step will be the replacement of the HAS's with laser giros, as the present HAS's need a replacement every 250 hours if they want the A300 be CAT III (presently CAT II)
The 777-200LRF has been launched some time agoBruspotter wrote: Yes indeed! And most propably THEY WILL buy the B777F , IF at least the program WILL be launched , find it takes pretty long time just to launch a freighter version of the B777 , weird for a plane already flying from early '90s
http://www.boeing.com/commercial/777fam ... rback.html
Maybe you are mistaking it for the A330F? It indeed has been quiet about it's launch, but rumours say Airbus don't rush it because it will fill production capacity on the A330/340 line that will be needed for pax versions untill the A350XWB arrives...
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hi,
I ask myself a lot why EAT doesnt put Winglets on there 757's .
and i even know the answer , its simpel winglets aint do a thing on flights that only take max 1h45 mins.
the only logic thing would be to put them on the OO-DLJ as its used on the meduim-haul flights like istanbul - tel aviv and sometimes when no other plane can be found to fly Brussels- Lagos.
the LJ is used a lot more as its a PF model and they use it sometimes to fly from East Midlands/brussels to Bahrain
a smal thought
Kenneth
I ask myself a lot why EAT doesnt put Winglets on there 757's .
and i even know the answer , its simpel winglets aint do a thing on flights that only take max 1h45 mins.
the only logic thing would be to put them on the OO-DLJ as its used on the meduim-haul flights like istanbul - tel aviv and sometimes when no other plane can be found to fly Brussels- Lagos.
the LJ is used a lot more as its a PF model and they use it sometimes to fly from East Midlands/brussels to Bahrain
a smal thought
Kenneth