Air Canada - Boeing deal gets go ahead

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 23 Sep 2005, 22:41

The deals back on

http://www.globeinvestor.com/servlet/Ar ... CANADA-COL

Starvmg · Post by **Starvmg** » 24 Sep 2005, 07:52

Wow thats great news for AC and Boeing!

I wonder what new routes AC has plans to begin with these new planes or which existing routes they plan to deply them on.

Perhaps:

YYZ-HKG
YYZ-DEL
YYZ/YVR-SYD
YYZ-LHR
YVR-LHR

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 02 Nov 2005, 14:20

Air Canada officialy announced reinstatment of the Boeing order, although they did lose a couple of slots, it appears the majority made it through unscathed.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/ ... PBusiness/

mttlacroix1988 · Post by **mttlacroix1988** » 03 Nov 2005, 00:53

What was the previosu probem?

SR89 · Post by **SR89** » 03 Nov 2005, 02:13

mttlacroix1988 wrote:What was the previosu probem?

Seniority issues between Canadian/Air Canada pilots.

AirbusA350 · Post by **AirbusA350** » 03 Nov 2005, 04:50

Great news for AC, I commend the pilots for accepting this reinforcement of AC's future. Without these airplanes AC would have bleak chances for a greater expansion, which is mediatory in a market like Candy. I'm not a big fan of Boeing, but I would like to underline that the B777 and B787 are great planes and have a perspectives. IMO AC needs some more routes to Central and Eastern Europe, which is a rapidly growing market.

YULWAWYUL -LO and AC code-share on WAWYYZWAW, I don't think that there is a bigger need. B787 is a perfect fit for this route.
YYZPRGYYZ
YYZSVOYYZ -Only SU flies to Toronto and not often x4 a week.

SR89 · Post by **SR89** » 04 Nov 2005, 01:29

YUL-WAW? Very doubtful...

Btw, VIE-YUL has been cut by OS (YYZ will be daily next summer).

n5528p · Post by **n5528p** » 04 Nov 2005, 07:38

SR89 wrote:YUL-WAW? Very doubtful...

Increase flights to FRA and go through LH's hub for a great choice of Eastern Europe.

Regards, Bernhard

AirbusA350 · Post by **AirbusA350** » 05 Nov 2005, 01:36

SR89 wrote:YUL-WAW? Very doubtful...

Btw, VIE-YUL has been cut by OS (YYZ will be daily next summer).

n5528p wrote:
SR89 wrote:YUL-WAW? Very doubtful...
Increase flights to FRA and go through LH's hub for a great choice of Eastern Europe.

Regards, Bernhard

I completely disagree, LO/LH can not feed the traffic all the time. Most of You probably find that the Central/Eastern European markets are not worthwhile for airlines such as AC. AC needs to expand to new destinations that are witnessing a certain 'renaissance' in traffic growth. LO will not serve all the long-hauls for years to come with a monopoly on these types of flights. The underestimating of such destinations is a mistake. Carries like AC will be able to dispatch newer aircraft ex. B787 with great performance, these planes are easy to fill up. LO has a little disadvantage, it's about to enter the Asian market and so there will be less concentration on the Canadian market, I would say that AC would have to switch with LO and send it's machines to WAW so that LO could code-share. LO will have a fleet of at least 7 787 thus making it hard to send a daily flight to YYZ. Serving destinations such as HGK, SIN, BKK(most probable) will make it very hard on LO. The carrier will be a 'Polish Frontier' on this market and giving attention to these destinations will become a priority.

IMO LO will not feed LH/AC the traffic all the time. There is a lot potential in the Polish market, which is experiencing [along with China and India] the biggest growth in pax in the world.

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 10 Nov 2005, 00:40

ACE has officially placed its revised order with Boeing, 36 777's and 60 787's including options. an considerable increase over the original order.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provid ... ID=5268672

Post by **luchtzak** » 10 Nov 2005, 01:03

And here is the press release with a nice picture as well: https://www.aviation24.be/article10516.html

AirbusA350 · Post by **AirbusA350** » 10 Nov 2005, 04:15

Great to see AC complete the order, which will have a certain long-term effect on the carrier's future. AC needs to lower its costs and let's hope that the B777's along with the B787 will have a positive outcome. It took AC quite some time to get this order completed, but it managed to discontinue the ambiguous talk between its employees and to bring a resolution that would help support the airlines position in the market and insure the airline's further growth.

bigjulie · Post by **bigjulie** » 18 Nov 2005, 20:15

n5528p wrote: Increase flights to FRA and go through LH's hub for a great choice of Eastern Europe.
Regards, Bernhard

About 2 1/5 years ago Discovery Channel ran a 3 programme series on flght#AC876 YYZ-FRA on a B767, I found it really interesting because I was due to fly to FRA from SFO Overnight, the same as 876!
If they repeat it have a look!