Jet Airways to Bru (2)

Starvmg · Post by **Starvmg** » 29 Sep 2005, 21:11

Hopefully, Since Jet Airways has given a + sign this will happen. So how will this work?

1 A340 Daily BOM-LHR
1 A340 Daily DEL-LHR
1 A340 --- BOM-BRU-EWR, how many times a week can they manage? if this does become a reality for 2005 Winter schedule?

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 29 Sep 2005, 21:20

That was also my question. Jet Airways itselfs said that it leased out their planes for serving the route BOM-BRU-EWR. The second plane they are going to used it for the second flight from BOM to LHR. So in that way they don't have the airplanes for flying the new routes.

Also this one. Jet Airways don't have the permission to fly 6 times the route BRU-BOM, because there are restrictions on that route.

So, I think it's very optimistic to say they are flying end of October.

Rayman · Post by **Rayman** » 30 Sep 2005, 10:49

Starvmg wrote:........
1 A340 Daily BOM-LHR
1 A340 Daily DEL-LHR
1 A340 --- BOM-BRU-EWR....

Just a small detail on BOM-BRU-EWR: 2 machines cross each other at BRU early morning.
Since math is not an opinion, 1+1+2=4.
I believe Atlantis is quite right to be sceptic.

Atlantis wrote:........
Jet Airways don't have the permission to fly 6 times the route BRU-BOM, because there are restrictions on that route.....

Atlantis, that's interesting, do you have additional info in this

teach · Post by **teach** » 30 Sep 2005, 13:48

Just a small detail on BOM-BRU-EWR: 2 machines cross each other at BRU early morning.
Since math is not an opinion, 1+1+2=4.
I believe Atlantis is quite right to be sceptic.

That would only be once the 6 weekly services are in place. With three weekly services (as planned for now) no planes will cross each other at BRU. The route can be flown with a single plane three times a week, and it'll still be on the ground for a full day.

Also, don't forget Jet Airways has A330s coming online soon. I remember reading that they would be used for some of the LHR flights, freeing up an A340 for the BOM-BRU-EWR route once that goes 6 times weekly.

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 30 Sep 2005, 16:52

According to the latest: Jet Airways is trying to start up only 3 times a week BOM-BRU-EWR and not 6 times a week. Why? As I said, Jet Airways don't have the permission to fly 6 times a week from EWR stopover at BRU and destination BOM. It's the US who have to give their permission.

You can ask, when they are going to get it for a daily flight, yes, they want to have a daily flight. By the end of March 2006.

teach · Post by **teach** » 30 Sep 2005, 18:25

According to the latest: Jet Airways is trying to start up only 3 times a week BOM-BRU-EWR and not 6 times a week.

How is that 'the latest'? The plan, from day one, was to start with three weekly flights, and increase to six later on. It's hardly anything new, it's been the plan all along.

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 30 Sep 2005, 21:31

@teach,

As I was saying; indeed the latest: frequenties goes up and down, 3 then 6 and now again 3. Just the same for the first flight. But that's something else.

So, for the future don't focus on a word, but see the whole picture, think what was writing in the past, read other sources on the net, talk with reliable sources and you have the picture from the beginning till now.

Flying-Belgian · Post by **Flying-Belgian** » 01 Oct 2005, 16:52

Hi Guys,

I've just read the french speaking edition of this week's "Trends-Tendances". And in the brief news area the mentioned 9W would star its flight from the 30th october on BUT at first only on a BOM-BRU-BOM basis with 3 weekly flights.
If the success is there and if the problem is solved with the U.S DOT then they would fly a daily BOM-BRU-EWR rotation in Q1 2006.

What do you think ?

FB.

EBAW_flyer · Post by **EBAW_flyer** » 01 Oct 2005, 16:57

It will indeed be like that. But I guess the start date isn't exactly know yet. Some say it will be in the next couple of weeks.

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 01 Oct 2005, 18:20

I confirm this: in a first phase it's only Bom-Bru-Bom

For next year end of March 2006: phase two Bom-Bru-Ewr

Rayman · Post by **Rayman** » 01 Oct 2005, 21:54

3/7 BOM-BRU-BOM only thus 8O

I wonder how 9W is going to fill those 800 (+ 800 back) seats a week withouth the back-bone US traffic.

Being very optimistic, including cross-borders, promo fares and eventual SN Feed-Defeed if agreement in place, I hope 25% LF and underline optimistic. This should mean no profitability.

Just wonder 8O

asianboy · Post by **asianboy** » 02 Oct 2005, 11:09

according to justplanes,9w will start bom-bru on 30 october.

Starvmg · Post by **Starvmg** » 02 Oct 2005, 18:46

considering that its exactly 4 weeks away hopefully 9W starts publicizing this soon. Any inside info from anyone? Advisor?

Rayman · Post by **Rayman** » 02 Oct 2005, 21:25

Starvmg wrote:considering that its exactly 4 weeks away hopefully 9W starts publicizing this soon. Any inside info from anyone? Advisor?

Not even a tiny clue on their site.
If they succeed to anticipate the A330 lease from ILFC on May next, opening the way for the late 2006 B777 start delivery, I have a slight feeling they are going to review Europe strategy.

Starvmg · Post by **Starvmg** » 05 Oct 2005, 00:59

It looks loike Brussels Airport was so excited about 9W that they posted on their website on June 9th that 9W was beginning ops back then....

hopefully their wish comes true soon...still waiting

Starvmg · Post by **Starvmg** » 06 Oct 2005, 15:44

On Airliners.net one person claims that Jet Airways really is going to start Amritsar (ATQ)-DEL-BHX (Birmingham) in November. This is to be 3x per week.

Does anyone know if the plane will then end up BOM-BRU on the other 3 days???

Should be interesting as its already October 6th, what will Jet really do?

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 07 Oct 2005, 15:43

According to a senior at Jet Airways, they can't fly to the US before summer '06. This is due to a lack of aircraft. The three A340-300 are committed for the India-UK market.

The other aircrafts, B777 can't join the fleet earlier then summer '06.

Even if they get permission from DOT to start up services to the USA they can't.

For the service from BOM-BRU no word about it. Is it cancelled?? The aircraft for that route is leased to an other airline. The only thing Jet can do is searching on the international lease market to find an aircraft for that route.

fostro · Post by **fostro** » 11 Oct 2005, 10:06

As far as I can see in the Galileosystem (the well-known GDS), there is no 9W-FLT mentioned between BRU-BOM.

So there are two options:

Those flights cannot be booked in Galileo (what I seriously doubt);
There is nothing yet confirmed about the whole 9W-plan @ BRU (this seems more realistic to me).

I'll give an update when there's a change in the system.

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 11 Oct 2005, 16:47

@Fostro,

As I was told in other posts, they don't have the aircraft for flying Bom-Bru for the moment.

For the moment I don't see them this year at Bru, Hopefully I'm wrong.

Rayman · Post by **Rayman** » 21 Oct 2005, 20:13

Atlantis wrote:@Fostro,
As I was told in other posts, they don't have the aircraft for flying Bom-Bru for the moment.
For the moment I don't see them this year at Bru, Hopefully I'm wrong.

I'm afraid you're not wrong at all.

Nothing is moving and silence is ruling.
Looks like a direct skip to summer season (hoping BRU plans won't be reversed).