What do you think of the AVRO?

yagoceron · Post by **yagoceron** » 07 Sep 2005, 12:48

Regi has just said BAE doesn't make them anymore.

I think the Swiss ones are second hand, aren't they?

Stij · Post by **Stij** » 07 Sep 2005, 16:27

What I think of an Avro RJ? To say it with the words of a SN steward on a flight from Glasgow to Brussels:

"Welcome aboard of this Avro Regional Jet 85. It looks like a chicken, but it flies like an eagle."

(he actually said that, no joke)

Cheers,

Stij

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 07 Sep 2005, 17:01

yagoceron wrote:I think the Swiss ones are second hand, aren't they?

Correct, the next 6 are coming from BA.

Seb.

B737229 · Post by **B737229** » 07 Sep 2005, 17:07

Ovostar wrote: Someone asks an interesting question under one of the pictures: The Speed Brake unit. Why do Airlines always deploy the brake while parked?

Isn't this because of the loss of hydraulic pressure the brakes may open, when on the ground?

Zorba · Post by **Zorba** » 07 Sep 2005, 17:25

My first flight was on an Avro, so it has a special place in my heart

But sometimes I like them, sometimes I don't. Depends on my mood.

Fiero · Post by **Fiero** » 07 Sep 2005, 17:45

B737229 wrote:
Ovostar wrote: Someone asks an interesting question under one of the pictures: The Speed Brake unit. Why do Airlines always deploy the brake while parked?
Isn't this because of the loss of hydraulic pressure the brakes may open, when on the ground?

The speed brake doesn't open on ground normally because it is equipped with a locking system. But after a couple of years those locks get damaged and it isn't that important to replace it. So it hasn't got anything to do with the brakes. And during the flight it's hydraulically closed so failsafe

jelger · Post by **jelger** » 07 Sep 2005, 19:01

I was quit surprised by the existence of such a small plane!

it is not that small...

go Twin Otter and you will experience small on scheduled flights...(or smaller planes)

is there actually a difference between the 1st generations, being BAe146, and the AVRO-RJ's ?

Fiero · Post by **Fiero** » 07 Sep 2005, 20:41

The actual frame of the airplane is the same.
But the engine's are FADEC controlled. The cockpit is a little bit different. An animal bay was also introduces. Water servicing panel on the L/H side instead of being a part of the hydraulic bay. The cabin that's a bit different.
DFGS and autothrottle. Those are about the most important differences.

Greetz

Ovostar · Post by **Ovostar** » 08 Sep 2005, 01:29

What's the differences between the BAe 146 and AVRO RJ's... is it the same company ? Somebody told me that Avro is italian...

B737229 · Post by **B737229** » 08 Sep 2005, 11:34

Thx Fiero for putting that right , about the speedbrake matter!

realplaneshaveprops · Post by **realplaneshaveprops** » 08 Sep 2005, 21:25

They are all manufactured by British Aerospace. So it's all British stuff, NOT Italian. The differences are explained by Fiero.

Thx Fiero!

Koen

Ovostar · Post by **Ovostar** » 08 Sep 2005, 22:26

so what does AVRO means ? Bae changed its name in AVRO ?

YYZ727 · Post by **YYZ727** » 09 Sep 2005, 08:51

I like the Avro, although it's not sexy, sleek, fast or beautifull, it gets the job done & that is what matters the most to an airline, i guess.

I think the name AVRO comes from the English aviation pioneer A. V. Roe.
the name got changed at some point in time to BAe, but nostalgia won it some point and they changed it back...

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 09 Sep 2005, 16:09

The AVRO RJ was a J/V between AVRO (Remember the Lancaster and the Vulcan to name a few) and BAe.

Seb.

snbru · Post by **snbru** » 13 Sep 2005, 11:42

Just flew them the first time this weekend. It is quite a funny airplane. 2+3 seating was OK, not narrow at all though I can't imagine 3+3 seating in this narrow body aircraft. Maybe the SNBA leather seats make it more comfortable.

I like the fact that the wing is located on top of the fuselage. Seated at the window one can admire all the things happening during take off and landing.

I also liked the fact that it has build in staircases. We didn't have to wait to long and could just walk on the tarmac by using the small staircase.

It is a bit noisy but not to much of a problem I think and the overhead bins at the wing locations are just too small. Only a laptop case fits in it.

I d love to fly them again.

vc-10 · Post by **vc-10** » 13 Sep 2005, 21:42

No-one. They will be second hand.

bigjulie · Post by **bigjulie** » 17 Sep 2005, 20:41

They are called "whisper Jets", are they not?

PNC · Post by **PNC** » 17 Sep 2005, 20:50

very old fashion aircrafts...

bigjulie · Post by **bigjulie** » 17 Sep 2005, 23:10

They have been in the British Royal Flight at some stage!