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Phuket air gives it up

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according the Bangkok Post
http://www.bangkokpost.net/Business/31Aug2005_biz01.php
Phuket Air gives up all its flights except 1 to Ranong.
All the planes will be wet leased.
Interesting to read is how the tone of the article directs in the innoscense of Phuket Air. All reports at Gatwick and Amsterdam seem to be forgotten, and it is all the fault of foreigners, now in Korea and Bangladesh. Poor Phuket Air, treated so unfear by those evil foreigners.

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They are mentioned so many times as an unsafe airline. I guess this safety problem is their own fault, they shouldn't blame other people or other things...

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Having read the article I kind of wonder how they gonna wet-lease their planes if they are that unreliable and unsafe????

Phuket seems to have problems everywhere crazy! Wonder if the airline is as innocent as the article seems to suggest... :)

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It doesn't surprise me what they are going to do. When you look at their fleet it is no wonder that they will wet lease them. They have grounded their 5 B747-200's 3 B747-200's, that are 8 jumbos. It is not only an huge amount of money that they have stored but also what is the parking cost of them. They have also 4 B732's and 4 YS11's. fleet list
They will wet-lease their aircraft, so the aircrafts can generate money but will the airline be capable to restore their image in Europe? I don't know.

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I wouldn't speculate that much on the value of those planes. They had better scrapped them, regarding the high value of aluminium and some titanium parts.

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Saudi Arabian Airlines has leased 2 747-200 and 1 747-300 from Phuket Air for Hajj operations 6/05-2/06.

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One passenger got killed during emergency evacuation of a Saudi plane in Colombo, after a bomb hoax:

http://www.news24.com/News24/World/News ... 90,00.html

Would be another dramatic event for Phuket Air if it happened on one of their leased planes. Don't know yet which plane it was.

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It is unbelievable, can those people not leave the aircraft in order? Where were the FA's?

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Putting your 74's on the market will not guarantee you will make money out of it. They still need the AOC.

Their reputation being what it is, it won't be a piece of cake to find customers.

Dry leases would be a better idea IMHO.

Shut it down for ever and drag the "bean counters" into jail would be a even better idea. 8)

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12/09: another incident for them: a very old YS-11 skidded of the runway somewhere in Thailand

(YS11 : production stopped in 1974)

http://www.traveldailynews.com/new.asp? ... gory_id=53

http://www.chinapost.com.tw/i_latestdetail.asp?id=30636

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The owner of Phuket Air says he is treated unfairly. The second in command says "they" are chasing Phuket Air. Nothing is wrong about Phuket Air. It has a good safety record. It is all the fault of other ones, read, foreigners.
Skiding off the runway at Mae Sot is quite strange. It has a good location. The low hills are miles away. Thai Air didn't have problems to land their ATR on Mae Sot. I have been there at least 10 times and all I can say is: blame it to the foreigners , in this case the japanese, who built that YS-11.
Phuket Air joins here the rangs of Biman which also was able to skid a turbo prop (F-28) + a DC-10 to destruction.
Talking about quality.

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according to the newspaper the nation, it is not Mae Sot airport, but Tak airport.
Tak and Mae Sot are in the same province, but both have an airport.
see :


Jet slides off runway
Published on September 12, 2005

During landing yesterday, a Phuket Airways plane from Bangkok skidded off the runway at Tak Airport shortly after 9am. None of the 30 passengers aboard were injured. The decades-old Japanese YS11 aircraft with a 64-seat capacity barrelled into the airport’s perimeter wire-fence. The plane’s right wing and propeller were damaged in the accident.

Immediately after the plane came to a halt, the two pilots broke the cockpit’s window and jumped out. They rushed back to open the aircraft’s exit doors to allow passengers and cabin crew to escape.

Chaowanit Jiamjaroenwoot, vice president of Phuket Air, said, “The rain might have affected the plane’s braking system,” he said. “The aircraft stopped 10 metres farther from where it should have stopped.”

But a passenger had a different story. “If you ask me, the plane should have been touching down on the beginning of the runway rather than around the middle,” said Senator Udon Tantisunthorn, a passenger aboard.

Tak Airport chief Prongsak Phanmit said experts from the Aviation Department would today inspect the site and determine the cause of the accident.

The Nation

Tak

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I agree with the honourable Senator: the plane should have landed much earlier. To skidd off a 60-seater turbo-prop on a runway is quite strange, even if it rains.

(www.phuketgazette.com has the same story)

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and the saga continues:

AIRLINES / EFFECT OF MAE SOT ACCIDENT

Phuket Air suspends two flights; Japanese will help investigation


BOONSONG KOSITCHOTETHANA

Troubled Phuket Airlines has suspended its last services to the north of Bangkok, after its only available airplane for the flights skidded off the runway and was damaged at Mae Sot airport in heavy rain last Sunday. Phuket Air was the only carrier flying to Mae Sot and to Buri Ram, and while the airline said yesterday the flight suspensions were ''temporary,'' executives gave no target date for resuming service to Tak province and the Northeast town.

The damaged YS-11 twin turbo-prop aircraft was still listing off the end of the Mae Sot airport runway. The plane's flight recorder was recovered and sent to Japan for decoding to help with investigating the cause of the accident. The inquiry is likely to take about a month, Phuket Airlines executives said.

None of the 28 passengers and crew aboard the plane was hurt in the Sunday accident, which some witnesses said occurred when the plane touched down too far down the runway. The Flight Safety Standards Bureau pulled the licences of the pilot and co-pilot and announced an investigation into their status, including whether they had been drinking before the flight.

Phuket Airlines flew five flights a week from Bangkok to Mae Sot and to Buri Ram.

There is no immediate plan to replace the damaged aircraft with a new one, according to airline officials. Phuket Air now effectively has one Boeing 737-200 jet flying on two routes, five frequencies a week between Bangkok and Ranong, and twice between Bangkok and Rangoon. Flights to Phuket and to Krabi had already stopped.

Early this year, Phuket Airlines was forced to suspend its short-lived scheduled inter-continental flights from Bangkok to Amsterdam and London, after a series of incidents including the alleged spotting of ''flames and sparks'' from a Phuket Air Boeing 747-200 taxiing for takeoff to London on April 3 at Sharjah in the United Arab Emirates.

Just last week, the airline finally recovered a Boeing 747-300 which had been impounded at Seoul's Incheon airport in South Korea for a month after separate civil disputes between Phuket Airlines and both its general sales agent, TV Club Travel, and the airport authorities.

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Post by pax »

regi wrote:and the saga continues:

AIRLINES / EFFECT OF MAE SOT ACCIDENT
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Just last week, the airline finally recovered a Boeing 747-300 which had been impounded at Seoul's Incheon airport in South Korea for a month after separate civil disputes between Phuket Airlines and both its general sales agent, TV Club Travel, and the airport authorities.
You Shure, Regi? Just passed a Phuket 743 here at Incheon on a tarmac position very far out. Doesn't look as if it has been moved too much lately

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No I am not sure. it was an article about the japanese turboprop which skidded off the runway at Mae Sot, Thailand. But in the end of the article they mentioned that Phuket Air got its 744 back.

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does anyone know why 2 Phuket Air 747s have been parked at Gatwick for ages and not moved?

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if the 2 747's are still thee it will be because the landing fees are not paid, or because their british tour operator/partner has a claim (see korean story) , or because the planes were declared unsafe to fly, or whatever what.
But if you look at the history of this airline of the last 12 months, it is easy to make your own assesment.

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