Tunisair ATR-42 ditched before coast of Sicily

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regi wrote:Why the Americans? Because they had the capability.
So had the Libyan Air Force, the Italian Air Force and the other NATO Air Forces based in Southern Italy. Before I forget it, the French Air Force and Navy also had the capability. I also believe that there is a very high chance that the aircraft has been shot down by a missile, but there is no evidence that can support that the Americans are to blame.
regi wrote:Not only the USA made big mistakes, also the Russians did.
So could the Italians and the French have done it, so why directly point at the US?

You probable did not read the link, there are different explanations about who could have shot down the aircraft. Why would have Italian Generals hold back radar recordings and other information? Relations between the US and Italy were not the best back then, so there was no need for them to cover some American ass. They would have rather see them leave from the area, and could have used this as a reason to make them go. So, that would lead us to believe that the Italians themselves have something to cover up (and thus they do not want to do a search for the wreck of the ATR-42, because THEY have something to cover).
From what the investigations showed so far, it is impossible to say of which type these were, French R.530s, US AIM-7 Sparrows, Italian Aspides (main armament of IMI’s F-104Gs) or Soviet-built AA-2-2 radar-guided Atolls?
That there were some live-firing exercises of the Italian Air Force and the French Navy over Sicily in the same night.
it is impossible to say if Italian Starfighters, French F-8 Crusaders or Super Etendards, Spanish Mirage F.1s or Phantoms, US F-4 Phantoms or even F-14 Tomcats took off and tried to intercept the intruders
Why does is need to be the Americans to blame? Why can't it be the Italian Air Force who shot the aircraft down (it is clearly stated that NATO fighter have participated in the hunt for the Libyan aircraft)? Is it just because you think that the US is the evil empire and that you try to bash them at whatever cost?

I'm not bashing you because you critisize the US, but you come with your theorie without any proof that the US actually did it, and you do not evne look at other possible theories. Do you have any source that can say that an American made missle struck the aircraft (and even that would not say much, many NATO Air Forces used American missiles)? No, you only know that A missile did strike the aircraft, but you can't tell who fired it. As you see, the Americans were not the only ones up there that night, and not the only ones who had the capability to have shot down that aircraft (either on purpose or not on purpose).

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This is very interesting... really!! But now back to the Tuninter crash sea landing (again... not Tunisiair).. any updates concerning the FDR and the CVR???
Aviator-o- wrote:So any more news or updtates about this Tuninter and its black box???
I really want to hear what the airplane's flight data recorder (FDR) and cockpit voice recorder (CVR) recorded before the ditch..

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ATR-72 tunisien: une mauvaise jauge de carburant responsable du drame

A mis-installed fuel gauge is at the origin of the crash of the Tuninter ATR-72-202 (MSN 258), who makes 16 deads and injuried 23. This aircraft delivered in 1992 has logged 29 710 hours flight time and 34 790 cycles, end of May 2005.

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