News about A380 test flights

B744skipper · Post by **B744skipper** » 12 Jun 2005, 12:15

MrAirbus wrote:Yes Airbus does have lots of more time for the A380 program and lets hope that the result cane lead to a better aircraft than can compete with B747adv and for sure be a delight for its costumers!

The A380 does not compete with the B747-Adv, because the latter fills in the niche between the B773 and the A380. No matter how good the A380 will be, if an airline searches for a long-haul 450 seater, they will go for the B747-Adv (if it is build). But if in airline wants something with 500+ seats they will go for the A380. Both the aircraft target different markets, altough a B747-Adv could cost the A380 some orders.

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 12 Jun 2005, 12:19

B744skipper wrote:The A380 does not compete with the B747-Adv

B744skipper wrote:altough a B747-Adv could cost the A380 some orders.

Altough the A380 could cost the B747-Adv some orders.

So, they are competing!

CQFD 8)

Seb.

B744skipper · Post by **B744skipper** » 12 Jun 2005, 12:39

Hard to explain, maybe I should rephrase a bit, they do not compete directly against each other. Because when the B747-Adv would not have been build, customers need to look for alternatives. Then the A380 would be too big, and an B773 too small. But airlines need aircraft, so they would miss-use one of those aircraft on the B747 routes.
But when the B747-Adv would be built, those airlines would buy that one, so costing other airliners orders. Yes, they do compete in some way, although they are not in the same market.

MrAirbus · Post by **MrAirbus** » 12 Jun 2005, 12:44

B744skipper wrote:The A380 does not compete with the B747-Adv, because the latter fills in the niche between the B773 and the A380. No matter how good the A380 will be, if an airline searches for a long-haul 450 seater, they will go for the B747-Adv (if it is build). But if in airline wants something with 500+ seats they will go for the A380. Both the aircraft target different markets, altough a B747-Adv could cost the A380 some orders.

Yes you are right about that! I forgot about the latest information about the B474adv!

I think that the B747adv Cargo version would make it hard for Airbus to sell the A380F!
!

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 12 Jun 2005, 12:47

I understood you very well, but my point of view is I don't see too much airlines ordering both B747-Adv and A380-800. So they are competing, even if the B747-Adv is a 450 seater and the Airbus is a 550. It's a little bit like the A340-600s and B777-300s have almost killed the B747-400 market. They are not front competitors, but they are competitors!

Regards

Seb.

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 12 Jun 2005, 13:45

Today, the A380 has landed @ LBG.

vivek0072 · Post by **vivek0072** » 13 Jun 2005, 06:25

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArt ... OW-BAE.xml

The article speaks of "Unresolved Systems Problems"

Atlantis · Post by **Atlantis** » 23 Jul 2005, 10:16

What's going on with the testflights of the A380. They have major problems with the gear. A week or two I saw it also in a TV-program that they had problems with that and it's still not solved. And now I have read a topic about this problem, the tires were total loss.

Is the real problem the structure of the body? I think the engineering people are sweating.

Source: http://aogdesk.org

HorsePower · Post by **HorsePower** » 23 Jul 2005, 12:21

How I interpret these pix:

pic 1: FWD view of the RH WLG

pic 2: FWD view of the RH WLG (taking few rolls after the incident)

pic 3: AFT view of the RH WLG

All the pictures have been taken the 25JUN05, not really new... The marks on the soil on pic 1&3 came from forward, it means the aircraft has been tugged. Only the internal LG is concerning, due to too small curve radius.

On B747s and A380s, only the BLG are fitted with steering actuator, to prevent these kind of events. I can conclude it's the tug driver's fault...

My €0.02

Seb.

A380-800 · Post by **A380-800** » 23 Jul 2005, 22:01

The damaged gear was the result of the ongoing test program. The
tires were damaged, but the gear itself withstood. So, nothing real
serious there. The second A380 is scheduled to join the test phase
in September and unfortunately it seems that the A380 will not be
displayed during the "Airbus Family Day" on 27th of August here in
Hamburg, due to the test program schedule.

rgds,

A380-800

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 23 Jul 2005, 22:36

Sad news indeed

Let's hope the test phase won't suffer from any more delays.

Chris

Airbus330lover · Post by **Airbus330lover** » 24 Jul 2005, 09:37

Test phase i to test the airframe !
Then it's normal to find such a kind of problems.
They need to be found now and not when in commercial service.
Quite normal for me

website-info · Post by **website-info** » 24 Jul 2005, 22:37

there is a full story of this in last weeks Flight International, the result even surprised people at just how well the gear and tires coped.......

Rgds
T

bits44 · Post by **bits44** » 24 Jul 2005, 23:02

An in-depth analysis of the A380, the delivery delay updates are not included!

http://www.flightinternational.com/asse ... temid=9139

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