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Any news re this group starting and where they are at.

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Welcome to Luchtzak Silky :wink:

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My research suggests that Hong Kong-based budget carrier Oasis Hong Kong Airlines has applied to the Air Transport Licensing Authority for six destinations - London Gatwick, Cologne/Bonn, Berlin, Milan, Oakland and Chicago.

However, the Civil Aviation Department has not yet granted it an air operator's certificate.

Also i hear that the airline plans to operate a small fleet of Boeing 747-400 or Airbus A340-300 aircraft, starting with three planes and expanding to five within two years. Could commence business by the end of 2005 and will fly to some European cities like Berlin, Vienna, Cologne and Milan.

Hope this helps :wink:



& Isn't Stephen Miller, a founder of Dragon Airlines the CEO of Oasis Hongkong Airlines :!:

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Hope they start up soon. Maybe a candidate for BRU-Hong Kong?

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Humberside wrote:Maybe a candidate for BRU-Hong Kong?
That would be nice!

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Advisor wrote:My research suggests that Hong Kong-based budget carrier Oasis Hong Kong Airlines has applied to the Air Transport Licensing Authority for six destinations - London Gatwick, Cologne/Bonn, Berlin, Milan, Oakland and Chicago.
I also heard rumours that they intend to come to Vienna, although I cannot confirm this so far.

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n5528p wrote:
Advisor wrote:My research suggests that Hong Kong-based budget carrier Oasis Hong Kong Airlines has applied to the Air Transport Licensing Authority for six destinations - London Gatwick, Cologne/Bonn, Berlin, Milan, Oakland and Chicago.
I also heard rumours that they intend to come to Vienna, although I cannot confirm this so far.

Regards, Bernhard
Could commence business by the end of 2005 and will fly to some European cities like Berlin, Vienna, Cologne and Milan.
Yes, they have already got permissions to Berlin, Vienna, Cologne and Milan and applied to the ones i have written above. :wink:
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Not quite true Silky.Oasis have applied for licences and ATLA(Air transport licensing Authority) have gazetted their application.The routes were if I remember correctly Gatwick/Berlin Schonefeld/Cologne/Oakland/Chicago/Milan.
However I understand that Eagle Aviation and CR Airways have lodged objections.Not sure if Cathay has as well.So not sure what will happen next.
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trawler5 wrote:Not quite true Silky.Oasis have applied for licences and ATLA(Air transport licensing Authority) have gazetted their application.The routes were if I remember correctly Gatwick/Berlin Schonefeld/Cologne/Oakland/Chicago/Milan.
However I understand that Eagle Aviation and CR Airways have lodged objections.Not sure if Cathay has as well.So not sure what will happen next.
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Will they dry or wet lease the aircraft?? Wonder where and who will do their maintenance.

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Have heard they are dry leasing ex UA 744's that are currently sitting in Victorville CA,presume they will use Haeco for maint in Hkg.ciao

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How many Ex UA are they planning to dry lease, trawler5 :?:
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trawler5 wrote:Have heard they are dry leasing ex UA 744's that are currently sitting in Victorville CA,presume they will use Haeco for maint in Hkg.ciao


"I see earlier they were to consider the A340 also - not many of these on the lease books I wouldn' think". Silky.

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I heard 2-3 744's,seems to have gone very quiet on the 340's though.Not much more to add yet.ciao

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They do have two objections on its license to fly. That means they won't fly til 2006 at the earliest. Its strategy is to fly to small, long-haul routes from HKG. Another words, they will not compete directly with the big ones. I remember Brussell was mentioned, but I could be wrong. Only Cathay Pacific Cargo is flying to Brussell from HKG today.

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Anyone news from:
Captain Andy Kumaria, former manager of Flight Operations of Dragonair, appointed as director of operations.
Director of Operations Oasis Hong Kong Airlines
2903 Tower Two
Lippo Centre
89 Queensway Hong Kong

Oasis Development Enterprises group, Raymond C. Lee, had announced the formation of Oasis Hong Kong Airlines.
The airline is based in Hong Kong and is owned by Hong Kong shareholders, including Mr. & Mrs. Raymond C. Lee, Allan Wong Chi Yun and others.
Mr Lee: "Instead of trying to steal someone else's lunch, we're creating a market where a market does not even exist said Raymond C. Leein an interview with Time Magazine
Raymond C. Lee, 49, is a property developer who is investing in the venture along with VTech Holdings chairman Allan Wong. Lee has a distinctive plan to compete with other upstarts like Tiger Airways in Singapore and AirAsia in Malaysia: fly to European cities--perhaps Berlin, Brussels, Milan, Vienna--where no other Asian airline goes direct.
Oasis Hong Kong Airlines, plans to begin services to European cities by the end of 2005, with Berlin, Vienna, Cologne and Milan cited a
s possible locations.
Service to the North American market could come in 2006.

It is still said that Oasis Hong Kong Airlines will be flying between Hong Kong, London and Berlin, and will focus on those European cities that at present have no direct flights.
Oasis Hong Kong Airlines has applied to the Air Transport Licensing Authority for six destinations - London Gatwick, Cologne/Bonn, Berlin, Milan, Oakland and Chicago. Civil Aviation Department mid-June said it had not yet granted it an air operator's certificate.
Meanwhile, Stephen Miller, managing director of the Hong Kong-based budget carrier, said the company obtained the required endorsement document from the Air Transport Licensing Authority Friday June 17...

The Ming Pao Daily News quoted Miller* as saying that roundtrip fares to Europe would cost between 4,000 Hong Kong dollars (US$512, €393) and HK$5,000 (US$641, €492).

Earlier this month: Berliner Flughafenchef Dieter Johannsen-Roth gab sich optimistisch, daß der Direktflug mit Oasis nach Hongkong spätestens zum Frühjahr 2006 fliegen wird.

* Steve Miller's Oasis Hong Kong Airlines

For more information on Oasis Hong Kong Airlines, please contact:

Mr. Steve Miller, CEO
Oasis Hong Kong Airlines
Lippo Centre, Tower 2, Room 2902
89 Queensway, Admiralty, Hong Kong
(852) 9013 3929
steve.miller@oasis-air.com

The Reverend Raymond C. Lee, founder, Chairman and CEO, and Priscilla H. Lee, founder and co-CEO:
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Oasis Hong Kong Airlines shareholders Mrs Priscilla Lee and Raymond Lee (centre) and chief executive, Stephen Miller.


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Another new HK carrier, Hong Kong Express, is going to start operation soon. Here's a HK newspaper report:

Hongkong Express, a start-up airline owned by the family of casino tycoon Stanley Ho, expects to have a fleet of four 76-seater Embraer 170 aircraft by 2006.

The carrier said Wednesday it will open for business next month with a Hong Kong-Guangzhou commuter service targeted at business travelers.

It said its first four aircrafts will cost US$80 million (HK$624 million) to purchase. It plans to add one or two planes per year over five years - jets as well as turboprops - to achieve its goal of serving 12 to 15 mainland cities.

The Hong Kong-Guangzhou full-fare return price will be HK$1,180 (US$152). The flight will take 20 minutes.

Its most direct competition will be China Southern Airlines and Dragonair, whose joint Hong Kong-Guangzhou service costs HK$1,600 (US$206)return.

Most travelers between Hong Kong and the Guangdong provincial capital use Kowloon Canton Railway's high-speed express train, which costs HK$190 each way.

``We want to attract passengers who are transferring from international flights,'' said Andrew Tse, chief executive of Hongkong Express. He said business travelers arriving from the United States or Europe prefer not to transit to Guangzhou by train.

``With the growth in the mainland economy, the need for more air services between Hong Kong and mainland cities is obvious, and international airlines serving Hong Kong are increasingly demanding more frequent and convenient feeder services,'' said Tse.

He said Hongkong Express has held discussions about interline services with Cathay Pacific Airways and other international carriers.

Hongkong Express plans to add service to Hangzhou in October and Nanjing in November. Chongqing and Ningbo would be added to the network in early 2006, said Kenneth Yeung, director of sales and marketing.

Hongkong Express obtained licenses to fly passengers to 12 secondary mainland destinations in May, but it cannot obtain landing rights for seven of these until objections filed by competitor CR Airways are dealt with by Hong Kong and mainland regulators.

In the meantime, said Tse, Hongkong Express may seek landing rights in Haikou, Sanya, Shantou and Zhengzhou. It also hopes to secure rights for Thailand's Ko Samui.

He said Hongkong Express would not be a low-cost carrier.

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CXRules wrote:He said Hongkong Express has held discussions about interline services with Cathay Pacific Airways and other international carriers.
Dont Cathay Pacific codeshare/interline with Dragonair?

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Yes, Cathay Pacific and Dragonair has interline arrangement, but not code sharing. Air China and Cathay Pacific just started code sharing Hong Kong-Beijing route.

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So if Cathay and Dragonair interline to Guangzhou, why do Cathay want to interline with Hong Kong Express?

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Why not?

HK Express can give them more frequencies; thus, more connection options for their passengers. Beside, the future of the relationship between Cathay and Dragonair is still unclear. Sure, Cathay owns part of Dragonair and Air China for strategic reason, but it doesn't mean they can't go for other partnerships. When Cathay first announced that they'd invest in Air China, lots of people were surprised since the conventional wisdom believed China Eastern would be the ultimate partner of Cathay, not Air China. (China Easterns is still a partner in Cathay's milage program, Asia Miles, while Air China has yet to join).

Bottom line is that it's always better to form partnership than rivlary.

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