Paris Air Show - Le Bourget 2005 orders

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Any idea about the identity of the European airline which may order new planes ??

Did Lufthanse at the end decide to replace their ± 60 B737's by A320's? Is BA going for the A380?

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Buzz wrote:Still, it is really obvious Boeing got the 'good' orders, while a lot of Airbus orders are from startups & airlines that haven't even started yet...

Who knows what else is to come...
Here is a critical article about the airlines that have made such huge orders. The article is written in the context of the Qatar order, and both A and B will be hurt if his prediction is true (so no A vs. B war intended here).


A little military order has also been placed:

Chile is expected to place an order this year for two or three A400M military airlifters, becoming the second export customer for the European planes after South Africa, an industry source said on Thursday.

http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsArticle.jh ... ID=8810057

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Okay, now we are listening. If Airbus sells a lot of planes to start up companies or some strange arab company, it is not a real order.
So every sell that Boeing makes to Emirates or Oman will also not be calculated. Okay, I understand.

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BBKing wrote:Any idea about the identity of the European airline which may order new planes ??
Maybe IB going for some A350 ? I don't see LH nor AF/KL ordering any planes for the moment except some regionals...

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I'm still waiting for Iberia, TAP and Aer Lingus.

Seb.

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regi wrote:Okay, now we are listening. If Airbus sells a lot of planes to start up companies or some strange arab company, it is not a real order.
So every sell that Boeing makes to Emirates or Oman will also not be calculated. Okay, I understand.
Well in the B-787 orders i read

Primaris Airlines
Ethiopian
Blue Panorama

And a lot of china :wink:

And in the A350 Orders? TAM isn' it a real order?

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This is how the order books look at the moment:

Airbus 261
- Qatar 60x A350 incl options
- ALAFCO 12x A350
- Jet Airways 10x A330
- GECAS 10x A350
- Tiger AIrways 8x A320
- Air Cairo 6x A318
- Kingfisher 5x A380
- Kingfisher 5x A350-800
- Kingfisher 5x A330-200
- Air Caraibes 2x A330-300
- Indigo Air 100x A320
- Interjet 10xA320
- TAM 8x A350-900
- TAM 20x A320

Boeing 148
- Ryanair 5x B737-800
- Qatar 20x B777-200
- GECAS 20x B737NG
- Jet Airways 6x B777-200LR
- Jet Airways 4x B777-300ER
- Jet AIrways 10x B737-800
- ILFC 20x B737-700/800
- ILFC 2x B777-200ER
- ILFC 6x B777-300ER
- Air Europa 18x B737-800
- Westjet 2x B737-600
- Alaska 35x B737-800

Embraer 25
- Paramount 5x ERJ-170
- GECAS 20x ERJ190/195

ATR 20
- FinnComm 8x ATR42-500
- CCM 6x ATR72-500
- Air Caledonie 1x ATR72-500
- Air Caledonie 2x ATR42-500
- AirMadagascar 2xATR72-500
- AirMadagascar 1xATR42-500

Bombardier 4
- Flybe 4x Dash 8-Q400

In numbers of airliners ordered (by type) this means:

Airbus:
95x A350
17x A330
138x A320
6x A318
5x A380

Boeing
90x Boeing 737 -700/-800
20x B737NG
20x Boeing 777-200
2x Boeing 777-200ER
6x Boeing 777-200LR
10x Boeing 777-300ER

ATR
11x ATR42-500
9x ART72-500

Bombardier
4x Dash 8-Q400

That makes a total of 458 aircraft.

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Actually, I wasn't talking about Qatar. They are an achieved airline, and will probably trive with the A350.
What I intended were the Indigo (100 A320) and the Kingfisher (A380 for an airline with a couple A320?). Off course they can very well succeed, but there are more risks involved than selling ILFC a couple of 737 & 777...

And about Primaris: they served their purpose: launch the 787. Expect the orders to be cancelled in the future...

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Germanwings has ordered: 18 firm A319s and 12 options.

Also 40 A320s have been ordered by another company who's name will be announced by the end of the month.

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so is this the last order at the Paris Air show? I am wondering that will there any airlines order aircraft at the weekend. :P

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Also remarkable is that Boeing didn't sell any 787's!

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Airbus also announced an order for 1 A340-600 for an undisclosed VIP client. Who is going to fly this enormous VIP-jet?

Airbus says also to expect more A350 orders the coming days ....

Source: Airbus website - announcement with respect to orders collected at Paris Air Show

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BBKing wrote:Airbus also announced an order for 1 A340-600 for an undisclosed VIP client. Who is going to fly this enormous VIP-jet?
From an undisclosed private saoudian group, who already own a VIP A320.

Seb.

UPDATES: Both aircrafts will be operated by Jeddah-based National Air Services (NAS).
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Add to that:

1 x Bombardier Q200 US customs
1 x Bombardier Challenger 850 unknown

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HorsePower wrote:
BBKing wrote:Airbus also announced an order for 1 A340-600 for an undisclosed VIP client. Who is going to fly this enormous VIP-jet?
From an undisclosed private saoudian group, who already own a VIP A320.

Seb.

UPDATES: Both aircrafts will be operated by Jeddah-based National Air Services (NAS).
Here is a link to the A346 VIP order from Airbus.

http://www.airbus.com/en/presscentre/pr ... rabia.html

It will be an enormous spacious cabin when finished ! 8O

rgds,

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soon TBA independence air lcc (washington dulles) gets

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40 a320's flyi the next jblue

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Re: soon TBA independence air lcc (washington dulles) gets

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Lotheawyr wrote:40 a320's flyi the next jblue
Flyi, really ?! If this comes true I (and Airbus) would be happy ! :D

rgds,

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Boeings official orders'


http://www.boeing.com/randy/

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And here the Airbus side

http://www.airbus.com/en/myairbus/headl ... story.html

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