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I understand you send your loved ones on an aircraft, the procedure is to send them by bus, to reduce the risk of contamination. Risking to contaminate other passengers and crew members, it's selfish.

In another article, a mother was proud that she rented an appartment to put her kid in quarantaine so she could continue working. That's shelfish too ....

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luchtzak wrote: 10 Jul 2021, 21:49 I understand you send your loved ones on an aircraft, the procedure is to send them by bus, to reduce the risk of contamination. Risking to contaminate other passengers and crew members, it's selfish.

In another article, a mother was proud that she rented an appartment to put her kid in quarantaine so she could continue working. That's shelfish too ....
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cathay belgium wrote: 10 Jul 2021, 21:14 Hi,

Yes, but now you had thé choice to be vaccinated ;)
4th WAVE only for anti-vaxxers... They deserve it !

Okay this is just sarcasm ...

You said it right.. it's impossible... But I don't like tests also for short trips.. you can test everyone every hour in thé end..

Just some self thinking helps... Masks, distance,gels,...

And give yourself a vaccination !!!!!

I'm fully vaccinated and ready for my third shot of they ask me !
Okay second,..got Johnson myself ...

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Hey CXB

I'm not agree for the moment not everyone can be vaccinated so in meantime we have to test till we reach a high level of vacations period!

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It's not 80% it's 64% first shot and 34% full vaccinated.

About the pandemic if I understand well we need to be vaccinated before other variant will develop that the point but I'm not a specialist .
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In all 7 recent flights that I took (to or from Belgium) since the end of May, I have been checked for vaccination or for a PCR test. I would like to know which airline allowed those young people on board without checking. In my view, it earns a red card.
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Hi,

From my flights ... PLF was checked on every flight ( Italy,Greece, Germany,Austria,Portugal )

No Covid test required for return to Belgium.. with TP, OS...

Belgian don't require this so why check anyway, on the PLF there is no note for a test when you are a belgian resident !

People can only follow rules when they exist officially.

For belgians residents there is NO rule ,NO Need , no official legislation to have a negative test for entering belgium..

So no RED card for those People as they only followed thé rules.
Give a red card to this government in place instead of judging people who follow surrealism rules ;)

I wouldn''t have done it, but not all people are like me obviously..

So what could they get, an article in a newspaper and a topic on FB that's all...
If not... Then our government has changed thé rules again while driving ... Again...

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sn26567 wrote: 10 Jul 2021, 22:34 In all 7 recent flights that I took (to or from Belgium) since the end of May, I have been checked for vaccination or for a PCR test. I would like to know which airline allowed those young people on board without checking. In my view, it earns a red card.
I would not blame the airline since they are only executing the existing rules and regulations. If you fly on board a directflight to Belgium and you have Belgian citizenship or your main residence, you can fly without a PCR/ANTIGEN/... test. I believe we are one of the few (or the only) countries in the EU to have this rule. The airline could check, yes. But shouldn't Saniport do so? What if you decide to use a paper PLF form instead of an electronic one? Will both be treated in the same way? I don't think so. If you always proclaim something is impossible (ex. to perform the health checks), than it becomes reality. If you decide to organize yourself an do it, it can also become reality.
Better use of the available data in de data collecting systems could also help to automate the checks, but these kind of sollutions are stuck in idialogical semantics. Conclusion: this COVID situation will take long(er) to be completly under control.

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sn26567 wrote: 10 Jul 2021, 22:34 In all 7 recent flights that I took (to or from Belgium) since the end of May, I have been checked for vaccination or for a PCR test. I would like to know which airline allowed those young people on board without checking. In my view, it earns a red card.
Blaming without knowing also deserves a red card.

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Lux_avi wrote: 12 Jul 2021, 14:15
sn26567 wrote: 10 Jul 2021, 22:34 In all 7 recent flights that I took (to or from Belgium) since the end of May, I have been checked for vaccination or for a PCR test. I would like to know which airline allowed those young people on board without checking. In my view, it earns a red card.
Blaming without knowing also deserves a red card.
Maybe but Belgium deserves also a red card!
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lumumba wrote: 12 Jul 2021, 19:31
Maybe but Belgium deserves also a red card!
Definitely, yes :?

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One cannot blame airlines or airports when they follow health rules. One has to blame those who decide on health rules: the Belgian government and the Belgian Corona Commissioner. They refused to take up their responsability by saying "it's the duty of all citizens to behave responsible". As if we don't need speed traps in traffic.

Airlines may impose more severe rules then the official ones. But if they do so, they have to get an OK from people who have bought a ticket. Otherwise, it's unilateral cancellation.

We can only hope now that the regional Contact Tracing Centers (aka 'the Netflix guys') do their job.

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Sunwing (the Canadian holiday airline that used to lease TUI aircraft during the winter) will be resuming partial service to select sun destinations from Toronto Pearson and Montreal-Trudeau starting 30 July 2021.

Australia’s limit on international arrivals has been cut from a little over 6,000 to about 3,000 passengers a week as of 14 July 2021 due to health and travel restrictions.
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Lufthansa passenger numbers are currently around 40% of pre-pandemic levels and it is aiming to reach 60-70% by the end of 2021.
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Etihad further suspended its flights from six countries including India, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, and Pakistan until 31 July 2021.

US Senate Commerce Committee chair has asked the chief executives of six major airlines to explain reported worker shortages despite receiving billions in pandemic bailouts.
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AirBaltic is demanding another investment from the government of Latvia in addition to the €250 million invested in 2020.

Cathay Pacific is proposing the closure of its London pilot base, placing nearly 100 jobs at risk.

WestJet says it is not seeking financial aid from the Canadian federal government after months of talks between Ottawa and the airline.
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Qantas domestic capacity has fallen to less than 40% of pre-COVID levels due to lockdowns in three Australian states.

Qantas will receive US$2 billion in government support by the end of 2021, sparking criticism about the government’s failure to seek a stake in the company in return and concerns it will dominate the skies once restrictions lift.
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Not only Ryanair! easyJet threatens to take legal action to cancel public aid to Air France-KLM over fears of distortion of competition.

The European Commission denies that there is a “formal investigation” into the decision of the Spanish Government to grant €52.5 million to Plus Ultra. OTOH, the European Commission has approved, under EU State aid rules, a €9 million Spanish measure to compensate Air Nostrum for the damage it suffered due to the coronavirus outbreak.

IATA says the European Commission had “missed an open goal” by setting this winter’s slot use threshold at 50%.

Rex Regional Express has cancelled all of its scheduled B737-800 flights until at least the end of July 2021, due to continued lockdowns.

TUI fly (Germany) has cancelled trips to almost 30 countries as part of its latest update. Flights to 29 countries, ranging from Spain and Greece to Cuba and the USA, have been scrapped up to the end of October 2021.
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Croatia’s government will fight for the survival of Croatia Airlines amid evolving market conditions and increased competition.
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Air Transat operated its first commercial flights after six months of inactivity due to travel restrictions.

Lion Air Group announced plans to furlough around 8,000 employees as travel businesses suffer disruption due to restrictions.

TAROM will carry out the stage of the implementation phase of the personnel restructuring measure, an action that was started in February 2021 and which represents an essential component of the recovery plan.

India’s DGCA further extended the ban on international flights till 31 August 2021 due to the pandemic.

Saudi Arabia has reopened its borders to international tourists starting from 01 August 2021.
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Qantas is standing down an additional 2,500 workers as state border controls inside Australia are depressing air travel.

Qatar Airways has relocated eight A330-300 fleet from storage Doha International Airport to Hamad International Airport. Five of the aircraft are now operating.

Thai AirAsia, which has suspended all domestic flights from 12 July 2021 due to current health and travel restrictions, extended the suspension until 31 August 2021, in line with government orders.
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