Flanders Air

liebensd · Post by **liebensd** » 22 Jul 2003, 16:51

When I was doing some research for the aircraft registration database I found some pictures of Flanders air, can someone give me more info about this airline.

Greetz,

Dave

Post by **sn26567** » 22 Jul 2003, 17:04

To my knowledge, it was a French regional company that was part of the Air Lib group. It is probably defunct now.

liebensd · Post by **liebensd** » 22 Jul 2003, 17:12

André,

The aircrafts had a Belgian registration.
Photo

Greetz,

Dave

meerkat · Post by **meerkat** » 22 Jul 2003, 17:27

Dave

sn26567's reply is not correct I think, as the french company was Flandre Air and operated EMB120's and Beech 1900's, so it looks like you have found something interesting.

Maybe the airline did not operate for long and perhaps only from Ostend but some of the older members may remember it. There are 2 pics of OO-SVL on JetPhotos.net taken at Dortmund whilst on a charter flight for Borussia Dortmund (football team!) to Rostock-Laage in 1991.

Meerkat

Post by **sn26567** » 22 Jul 2003, 17:33

Dave,

There were two airlines: Flandre Air (French) and Flanders Airlines (Belgian).

Flanders Airlines (../FLN) was based in Wevelgem and had a short existence between 1889 and 1992. It had a maximum of 4 Fokkers 27. In 1990, BAF (British Air ferries) tried to take it over to rename it Flanders European, but the deal fell through.

Flandre Air (IX/FRS) based in Lille Lesquin had a longer life from 1976 to 2001. It was once part of the Air Liberté (Swissair) group and merged into Regional Airlines in 2001. It than had 3 ERJ-145, now sold out.

Post by **sn26567** » 22 Jul 2003, 17:39

More info in the following order:

Reg'n / Type / msn s:n / origin / became:status / remarks / last status

OO-FEA F.27-600 10385 ex PH-FNH [Fokker Svcs] to EI-FEA [Iona National AW] Active with [Federal Express]
OO-SVL Record updated recently - embargoed for non-subscribers
OO-SVM F.27-100 10121 ex F-GAOT [Uni Air] to F-WKPX [private operator in France] Scrapped, last with [private operator in France]
OO-SVN F.27-100 10166 ex PK-OBP [Airfast Indonesia] to 9U-BHE [Burundi BCR Charter] Stored by [Burundi BCR Charter]

liebensd · Post by **liebensd** » 22 Jul 2003, 17:41

Meerkat,

We are talking abou the same airline, André it is Flanders Air and not Flandre Air. I am also looking for info of Skyjet, it was a Belgian airline OO-PHN and OO-HPN were aircrafts of them. Ther was also an other Belgian airline called Chalenge Air OO-VAS was an aircraft of them a 767-33A and not the Sobelairs B738.

Greetz,

Dave

liebensd · Post by **liebensd** » 22 Jul 2003, 18:57

André,

Thx

Greetz,

Dave

liebensd · Post by **liebensd** » 22 Jul 2003, 20:28

There is an other Belgian airline where I wouldlike to have some info About. Belgian International Air Service.
If you have some info that you would like to mail to me, it is possible on liebensd@luchtzak.be

Greetz,

Dave

OOSRC · Post by **OOSRC** » 22 Jul 2003, 22:03

Belgian International Air Services (BIAS) was founded by C. Van Antwerpen around 1959. It first flew with Douglas DC-4/C-54 (a.o. OO-VAN, OO-RIC, OO-DEP). Then from the mid 60's came the Douglas DC-6B and A's (OO-GER, OO-OO-ABE, OO-ABG, OO-PAY/HEX). They took over the Libyan operations of Sabena (Linair) and acquired ex-Sabena DC-3/C-47's. In 1968 they operated a DH.114 Heron (OO-BIA) for Sabena on routes to Eindhoven and Rotterdam. Around 1970 they acquired two ex KLM DC-8's (OO-CMB and OO-AMI) which flew under the BIAS International name. They also flew a Caravelle (OO-CVA) in the early 70's. Most of these activities were (IT) charters. BIAS International became Delta International (CMB acquiring participations in BIAS and Delta Air Transport). BIAS flew also a Fokker Friendships for Sabena (OO-SBP). From the mid 70's they had no aircraft registered in Belgium anymore and they remained active as a leasing company, I guess working togethers with Danish Aero Lease (Fokker F27 PH-ARO, OY-DHW and OY-DNF). Afterwards, the company vanished slowly into history.

OOSRC · Post by **OOSRC** » 22 Jul 2003, 22:14

BIAS:
There are photos of BIAS airliners on the internet.
DC-6 OO-ABE on Airliners.net (in the second c/s).
DC-6 OO-PAY somewhere else (in the third c/s).
One of the DC-8's in BIAS International c/s on Airliners.net (OO-AMI or OO-CMB).

Post by **sn26567** » 22 Jul 2003, 22:23

liebensd wrote:There is an other Belgian airline where I wouldlike to have some info About. Belgian International Air Service.

I have flown once with a BIAS DC8. It was in 1972, to Palma de Mallorca and back, and it was the price of a tombola, together with 2 weeks in an apartment there.

I did not take the registrations, a picture or anything else, but I remember clearly it was an ex-United, of which it still had part of the (old) livery.

OOSRC · Post by **OOSRC** » 22 Jul 2003, 22:43

More on Flanders Airlines:
Flanders Airlines was incorporated on 26/12/1989 after some kind of merger of Servisair Belgium and Frevag Airlines.
Flanders Airlines flew 6 Fokker F-27 Friendship:
(OO-FEA, OO-FEF, OO-FEG, OO-SVL, OO-SVM and OO-SVN) and
2 (Fairchild) Swearingen Metro:
(OO-VGC and OO-VGD).

The "DC-8" ex United of BIAS in 1970's was probably Boeing 720 OO-VGM of Delta Air Transport

, which flew in a United Airlines c/s for one year. Then they stopped flying it because it never made any "frank". That plane was later recalled as OO-Van Gaever Mistake.
The DC-8's of BIAS were ex KLM. The BIAS Caravelle was ex United Airlines (1971). But I think it always flew in the red BIAS c/s.

liebensd · Post by **liebensd** » 23 Jul 2003, 10:29

OOSRC & André,

Thx for the info.

Greetz,

Dave

liebensd · Post by **liebensd** » 23 Jul 2003, 12:29

Can someone conferm this info?
This were DAT registrations:
OO-AUX DC3
OO-AVG C47
OO-DJA+B+C FOKKER28
OO-DTE => OO-DTZ EMBR120
OO-FVG FOKKER27
OO-RVG DC6
OO-VDF C47
OOVGB+E+F+K DC6
OOVGO+P+T+U+W CV440
OO-MTD FOKKER27
OO-VDD
Is this info OK? Are there still aircrafts missing? Let me know it on this forum or on liebensd@luchtzak.be

Greetz,

Dave

OOSRC · Post by **OOSRC** » 23 Jul 2003, 22:30

DAT fleet:
Beech QueenAir: OO-VDD, VDE.
Douglas DC-3/C-47: OO-AUV, AUX, DVG, GVG, AVG, CBU, KVG, VDF.
Douglas DC-4: N38934.
Douglas DC-6: OO-VGB, CTK, EVG (from 1973 VGE), FVG (from 1973 VGF), LVG (from 1973 VGL), RVG, VFG, VGK.
Convair CV-440: OO-PVG (from 1973 VGP), TVG (from 1973 VGT), UVG (from 1973 VGU), VGJ, VGW.
Fairchild FH-227B: OO-DTA, DTB, DTC (initially HTC), DTD, DTE.
Embraer Brasilia: OO-DTF, DTG, DTH, DTI, DTJ, DTK, DTL, DTN, DTO.
Boeing 720: OO-VGM.
Fokker F-28: OO-DJA, DJB.
+ OO-MTD: E120 for Air Meuse (DAT Wallonie).
+ BAe 146: OO-DJC, DJD.
+ Fleet as it is now with SNBA.

liebensd · Post by **liebensd** » 23 Jul 2003, 22:45

OOSRC,

Thx, I will pay you one when I see you! :drink: :cheers:

Greetz,

Dave

Post by **sn26567** » 24 Jul 2003, 09:08

Didn't DAT also have a fleet of F28s leased from TAT with a French registration: F-Gxxx ? Example:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/231294/M/

In my records:
F28-1000: F-GBBR, GBBS, GBBT, GECK
F28-1000C: F-GNZB
F28-4000: F-GDSK, GDUY

DAT also had Dutch-registered planes:
C47 PH-MAG
F28-1000 PH-VGR
DHC-8 PH-SDM

and 2 Danish ones:
N262: OY-BCO and BLV

and also an Italian BAE
BAe146-300: I-ATSC

May I also have a drink? :drink:

Post by **sn26567** » 24 Jul 2003, 09:17

OOSRC wrote:DAT fleet:
+ BAe 146: OO-DJC, DJD

They are now with Eurowings (D-AEWD and AEWE)