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2017 Paris Air Show news #pas17

Post by luchtzak » 19 Jun 2017, 09:45

Continuous twitter feed about the #pas17

http://www.aviation24.be/2017-paris-air-s ... tter-feed/

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Post by luchtzak » 19 Jun 2017, 18:57

All the news about the Paris Air Show: http://www.aviation24.be/search/?cx=00541 ... j537244j10

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Post by sn26567 » 19 Jun 2017, 22:45

All the sales of the first day have been reported on the main page of aviation24.be

FlightGlobal computed all those sales data for the first day and came up with the following totals:

Airline order commitments
Customer Aircraft model Order status Total
GECAS A320neo family Firm order 100
Lion Air 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 50
CDB Leasing 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 42
SpiceJet 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 40
Qatar Airways 737 Max 8 Option 40
AerCap 787-9 Firm order 30
GECAS 737 Max 10 Firm order 20
Tibet Financial Leasing 737 Max Order LoI/MoU 20
ALAFCO 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 20
Qatar Airways 737 Max 8 Firm order 20
TUI Group 737 Max 10 Firm order 18
Monarch 737 Max 8 Firm order 15
Air Lease A321neo Firm order 12
BOC Aviation 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 10
Tianju ATR42-600 Order LoI/MoU 10
CDB Leasing 787-9 Order LoI/MoU 8
PAL Express Q400 Order LoI/MoU 7
CDB Leasing 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 6
CDB Leasing 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 4
Xuzhou Hantong ATR42-600 Order LoI/MoU 3
Norwegian 737 Max 8 Firm order 2

By aircraft type:
Boeing 737 MAX : 307 !
A320neo family: 112
Boeing 787 : 38
ATR : 13
Q400 : 7
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Re: 2017 Paris Air Show news #pas17

Post by Bralo20 » 19 Jun 2017, 23:37

André, the numbers of Boeing aren't quite correct, quite a few of the Boeing MAX orders are conversions. At this point Boeing has gained a net order of about 203 Boeing 737 MAX planes, the rest are conversions of previous orders from the MAX 8 / 9 to the MAX 10.


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Post by sn26567 » 20 Jun 2017, 19:23

Day one provided for 477 sales (even knowing that some of them are only conversions).
Day two beat it with 561 sales (but the 100 United MAX 10s are all conversions!)

The tally stands now at (with Embraer coming also into the picture):

Airline order commitments
Customer Aircraft model Order status Total
GECAS A320neo family Firm order 100
United Airlines 737 Max 10 Firm order 100
Avolon 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 75
Lion Air 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 50
Avolon 737 Max 8 Option LoI 50
CDB Leasing 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 42
SpiceJet 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 40
Qatar Airways 737 Max 8 Option 40
Viva Air Columbia A320neo Order LoI/MoU 35
China Aircraft Leasing 737 Max Firm order 35
AerCap 787-9 Firm order 30
CDB Leasing A320neo Order LoI/MoU 30
SpiceJet Q400 Order LoI/MoU 25
SpiceJet Q400 Option LoI 25
GECAS 737 Max 10 Firm order 20
Tibet Financial Leasing 737 Max Order LoI/MoU 20
ALAFCO 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 20
Qatar Airways 737 Max 8 Firm order 20
Aviation Capital Group 737 Max 10 Firm order 20
Undisclosed customer E190-E2 Order LoI/MoU 20
TUI Group 737 Max 10 Firm order 18
Monarch 737 Max 8 Firm order 15
Viva Air Columbia A320 Order LoI/MoU 15
CDB Leasing A321neo Order LoI/MoU 15
Air Lease A321neo Firm order 12
BOC Aviation 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 10
Tianju ATR42-600 Order LoI/MoU 10
Ryanair 737 Max 200 Firm order 10
Delta Air Lines A321-200 Firm order 10
JP Products & Lease Services 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 10
Undisclosed customer E195-E2 Firm order 10
Undisclosed customer E190-E2 Option LoI 10
Ethiopian Airlines 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 10
CDB Leasing 787-9 Order LoI/MoU 8
Okay Airways 737 Max 10 Firm order 8
PAL Express Q400 Firm order 7
Okay Airways 737 Max 8 Firm order 7
CDB Leasing 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 6
Blue Air 737 Max Firm order 6
Okay Airways 787-9 Order LoI/MoU 5
China Aircraft Leasing 737 Max 10 Firm order 5
Ethiopian Airlines Q400 Order LoI/MoU 5
CDB Leasing 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 4
United Airlines 777-300ER Firm order 4
Azerbaijan Airlines 787-8 Order LoI/MoU 4
Xuzhou Hantong ATR42-600 Order LoI/MoU 3
Fuji Dream Airlines E175 Firm order 3
Norwegian 737 Max 8 Firm order 2
KLM cityhopper E190 Firm order 2
Ethiopian Airlines 777F Order LoI/MoU 2
Air Senegal ATR72-600 Firm order 2
J-Air E190 Firm order 1
Belavia E175 Firm order 1
Belavia E195 Firm order 1
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Re: 2017 Paris Air Show news #pas17

Post by sn26567 » 21 Jun 2017, 23:10

After day 3 (the last day of sales), the situation is as follows:

Order commitments: 996 (782 if taking into account 214 order conversions, mostly to 737 MAX 10)
Options: 125
Total: 1121 (907 if taking into account 214 order conversions)

By aircraft type:
Boeing 737 MAX: 711
Airbus A320neo: 202
Bombardier Q400: 62
Boeing 787: 50
Embraer E-jet E2: 40
Airbus A320ceo: 25



Airline order commitments
Customer Aircraft model Order status Total Note
GECAS A320neo family Firm order 100 New
United Airlines 737 Max 10 Firm order 100 Swap
Avolon 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 75 New
Lion Air 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 50 New
Avolon 737 Max 8 Option LoI 50 New
CDB Leasing 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 42 New
Qatar Airways 737 Max 8 Option 40 New
Viva Air Columbia A320neo Order LoI/MoU 35 New
China Aircraft Leasing 737 Max Firm order 35 New
AerCap 787-9 Firm order 30 New
CDB Leasing A320neo Order LoI/MoU 30 New
SpiceJet Q400 Order LoI/MoU 25 New
SpiceJet Q400 Option LoI 25 New
GECAS 737 Max 10 Firm order 20 Swap
Tibet Financial Leasing 737 Max Order LoI/MoU 20 New
SpiceJet 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 20 New
SpiceJet 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 20 Swap
ALAFCO 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 20 New
Qatar Airways 737 Max 8 Firm order 20 New
Aviation Capital Group 737 Max 10 Firm order 20 New
Undisclosed customer E190-E2 Order LoI/MoU 20 New
TUI Group 737 Max 10 Firm order 18 Swap
Monarch 737 Max 8 Firm order 15 Previously unidentified
Viva Air Columbia A320 Order LoI/MoU 15 New
CDB Leasing A321neo Order LoI/MoU 15 Swap
China Aircraft Leasing 737 Max 10 Firm order 15 New
Copa Airlines 737 Max 10 Firm order 15 Swap
Air Lease A321neo Firm order 12 New
BOC Aviation 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 10 New
Tianju ATR42-600 Order LoI/MoU 10 New
Ryanair 737 Max 200 Firm order 10 New
Delta Air Lines A321-200 Firm order 10 New
JP Products & Lease Services 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 10 New
Undisclosed customer E195-E2 Firm order 10 New
Undisclosed customer E190-E2 Option LoI 10 New
Ethiopian Airlines 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 10 New
Wizz Air A321 Firm order 10 New
Xiamen Airlines 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 10 New
Malaysia Airlines 737 Max 10 Firm order 10 Swap
Donghai Airlines 737 Max 10 Firm order 10 Swap
CDB Leasing 787-9 Order LoI/MoU 8 New
Okay Airways 737 Max 10 Firm order 8 New
PAL Express Q400 Firm order 7 LoI/option to firm
Okay Airways 737 Max 8 Firm order 7 New
Air Lease 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 7 New
CDB Leasing 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 6 Swap
Blue Air 737 Max Firm order 6 Previously unidentified
Okay Airways 787-9 Order LoI/MoU 5 New
Ethiopian Airlines Q400 Order LoI/MoU 5 Previously unidentified
Air Lease 737 Max 7 Order LoI/MoU 5 New
CDB Leasing 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 4 New
United Airlines 777-300ER Firm order 4 New
Azerbaijan Airlines 787-8 Order LoI/MoU 4 New
Xuzhou Hantong ATR42-600 Order LoI/MoU 3 New
Fuji Dream Airlines E175 Firm order 3 New
Norwegian 737 Max 8 Firm order 2 LoI/option to firm
KLM cityhopper E190 Firm order 2 New
Air Senegal ATR72-600 Firm order 2 New
Ethiopian Airlines 777F Order LoI/MoU 2 New
Hi Fly A330-200 Firm order 2 New
El Al 787-8 Firm order 2 New
J-Air E190 Firm order 1 New
Belavia E175 Firm order 1 New
Belavia E195 Firm order 1 New
El Al 787-9 Firm order 1 New
Mauritania Airlines 737 Max 8 Firm order 1 Previously unidentified
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Re: 2017 Paris Air Show news #pas17

Post by sn26567 » 22 Jun 2017, 22:38

Usually most sales are concluded on Day 3. This year is an exception: there were still substantial sales on Day 4, enabling Airbus to make up a little for its serious lag on Boeing (and this is also an exception, as Le Bourget is considered more as an Airbus show, while Farnborough is mostly a Boeing show).

Thus, final sales are:
Order commitments: 1,049
Options: 175
Totals: 1,224
NOTE: Totals exclude 229 existing order conversions announced during the show

By aircraft type:
Boeing 737 Max: 707
Airbus A320neo family: 272
Bombardier Q400: 64
Boeing 787: 50
Embraer E-Jet E2: 40
Airbus A320 family: 39

Customer / Aircraft model / Order status / Total / Note
ALAFCO 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 20 New
AerCap 787-9 Firm order 30 New
AerCap 737 Max 10 Firm order 15 Swap
Air Lease A321neo Firm order 12 New
Air Lease 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 7 New
Air Lease 737 Max 7 Order LoI/MoU 5 New
Air Senegal ATR72-600 Firm order 2 New
AirAsia A320 Order LoI/MoU 14 New
Aviation Capital Group 737 Max 10 Firm order 20 New
Avolon 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 75 New
Avolon 737 Max 8 Option LoI 50 New
Azerbaijan Airlines 787-8 Order LoI/MoU 4 New
BOC Aviation 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 10 New
Belavia E175 Firm order 1 New
Belavia E195 Firm order 1 New
Blue Air 737 Max Firm order 6 Previously unidentified
CDB Leasing 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 42 New
CDB Leasing A320neo Order LoI/MoU 30 New
CDB Leasing A321neo Order LoI/MoU 15 Swap
CDB Leasing 787-9 Order LoI/MoU 8 New
CDB Leasing 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 6 Swap
CDB Leasing 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 4 New
CemAir Q400 Order LoI/MoU 2 New
China Aircraft Leasing 737 Max Firm order 35 New
China Aircraft Leasing 737 Max 10 Firm order 15 New
Copa Airlines 737 Max 10 Firm order 15 Swap
Delta Air Lines A321-200 Firm order 10 New
Donghai Airlines 737 Max 10 Firm order 10 Swap
El Al 787-8 Firm order 2 New
El Al 787-9 Firm order 1 New
Ethiopian Airlines A350-900 Firm order 10 Previously unidentified
Ethiopian Airlines 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 10 New
Ethiopian Airlines Q400 Order LoI/MoU 5 Previously unidentified
Ethiopian Airlines 777F Order LoI/MoU 2 New
Fuji Dream Airlines E175 Firm order 3 New
GECAS A320neo family Firm order 100 New
GECAS 737 Max 10 Firm order 20 Swap
Hi Fly A330-200 Firm order 2 New
Iran Airtours A320neo Order LoI/MoU 45 New
J-Air E190 Firm order 1 New
JP Products & Lease Services 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 10 New
KLM cityhopper E190 Firm order 2 New
Lion Air 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 50 New
Malaysia Airlines 737 Max 10 Firm order 10 Swap
Mauritania Airlines 737 Max 8 Firm order 1 Previously unidentified
Monarch 737 Max 8 Firm order 15 Previously unidentified
Norwegian 737 Max 8 Firm order 2 LoI/option to firm
Okay Airways 737 Max 10 Firm order 8 New
Okay Airways 737 Max 8 Firm order 7 New
Okay Airways 787-9 Order LoI/MoU 5 New
PAL Express Q400 Firm order 7 LoI/option to firm
Qatar Airways 737 Max 8 Option 40 New
Qatar Airways 737 Max 8 Firm order 20 New
Ruili Airlines 737 Max Order LoI/MoU 20 New
Ryanair 737 Max 200 Firm order 10 New
SpiceJet Q400 Order LoI/MoU 25 New
SpiceJet Q400 Option LoI 25 New
SpiceJet 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 20 New
SpiceJet 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 20 Swap
TUI Group 737 Max 10 Firm order 18 Swap
Tassili Airlines 737-800 Firm order 3 Previously unidentified
Tianju ATR42-600 Order LoI/MoU 10 New
Tibet Financial Leasing A321neo Order LoI/MoU 20 New
Tibet Financial Leasing 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 10 New
Tibet Financial Leasing 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 10 New
Undisclosed customer 737 Max 8 Order LoI/MoU 125 New
Undisclosed customer 737 Max 8 Option LoI 50 New
Undisclosed customer E190-E2 Order LoI/MoU 20 New
Undisclosed customer E195-E2 Firm order 10 New
Undisclosed customer E190-E2 Option LoI 10 New
United Airlines 737 Max 10 Firm order 100 Swap
United Airlines 777-300ER Firm order 4 New
Viva Air Columbia A320neo Order LoI/MoU 35 New
Viva Air Columbia A320 Order LoI/MoU 15 New
Wizz Air A321 Firm order 10 New
Xiamen Airlines 737 Max 10 Order LoI/MoU 10 New
Xuzhou Hantong ATR42-600 Order LoI/MoU 3 New
Zagros Airlines A320neo Order LoI/MoU 20 New
Zagros Airlines A330neo Order LoI/MoU 8 New
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Re: 2017 Paris Air Show news #pas17

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sn26567 wrote:
22 Jun 2017, 22:38

By aircraft type:
Boeing 737 Max: 707
Airbus A320neo family: 272
Bombardier Q400: 64
Boeing 787: 50
Embraer E-Jet E2: 40
Airbus A320 family: 39
What about Sukhoi?

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Post by sn26567 » 23 Jun 2017, 18:14

PttU wrote:
22 Jun 2017, 22:50
sn26567 wrote:
22 Jun 2017, 22:38

By aircraft type:
Boeing 737 Max: 707
Airbus A320neo family: 272
Bombardier Q400: 64
Boeing 787: 50
Embraer E-Jet E2: 40
Airbus A320 family: 39
What about Sukhoi?
Should be very close to zero!

I forgot:
ATR -600: 17
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Re: 2017 Paris Air Show news #pas17

Post by sn26567 » 23 Jun 2017, 23:36

PttU wrote:
22 Jun 2017, 22:50
What about Sukhoi?
Results of the Paris Air Show in Le Bourget for Russia

Owing to the position of the French authorities, Russia has not brought any full-scale models of its military hardware to the Le Bourget international aerospace show. Despite this, Russian defense manufacturers actively participate in it.

Russia is represented by Rosoboronexport, the United Aircraft Corporation, Russian Helicopters, Roscosmos, the United Engine Corporation and about a dozen other aircraft and aerospace firms such as Irkut Aircraft Company, Sukhoi, MiG, Ilyushin and Beriev, the titanium and aluminum producer VSMPO-Avisma and others. All the Russian companies are demonstrating 190 promising aircraft and space technology items.

As Rosoboronexport explained, the Le Bourget aerospace show organizing committee had not imposed any restrictions and had guaranteed Russia the safety of its exhibits and its exposition; "however, the French customs bodies banned delivering full-scale items of military products to the country." In this regard, Russia could not send weapons and military equipment to the aerospace show.

The Russian exposition’s military component was presented in the form of scale models and promotional materials. Specifically, Rosoboronexport demonstrates at the PAS the MiG-29M/M2 multipurpose frontline fighter jet, the Su-35 multirole fighter, modifications of the Su-30MK plane, the Yak-130 combat trainer, the Yak-152 training plane, the Ka-52 reconnaissance and attack helicopter, the Mi-28NE combat rotocraft, the Mi-35 combat transport helicopter, the Ka-226T lightweight multirole round-the-clock helicopter, the Mi-26T2 heavy transport helicopter, and also the Russian-Indian project of a perspective multipurpose fighter.

Rosoboronexport’s products also include Russia’s advanced air defense systems: the Antey-2500 surface-to-air missile complex, the Buk-M2E antiaircraft missile system, the Pantsyr-S1 air defense missile/gun complex and the Verba portable surface-to-air missile system.

Among the commercial aviation aircraft at the Paris air show was the Sukhoi Superjet 100. SSJ100 painted in the Interjet livery (Mexican airline operating 22 aircraft of the Sukhoi Superjet type at the moment).

Russia’s newest medium-haul airliner MC-21 (it performed its debut flight on May 28, 2017) is represented by a training simulator for flight crews.

The United Aircraft Corporation demonstrates at its stand the models of the MC-21-300, Il-114-400 airliners and the Multipurpose Transport Aircraft (MTA), which Russia is developing jointly with India, the Be-200 and the Be-103 amphibious aircraft, and also conceptual developments for the perspective cargo and passenger plane (M-60).

Also at the stand of Rosoboronexport was demonstrated the model of the lightweight multirole Ansat helicopter manufactured by the Kazan helicopter enterprise.

It emerged at the Le Bourget aerospace show that Russia has won a bidding contest for providing deck helicopters Ka-52K for the Egyptian amphibious assault ships Mistral, the head of the federal service for military-technical cooperation Dmitry Shugayev said.

According to him, Russia and Egypt are now approving the technical concept of the helicopter and the contract’s financial terms. The work carries on and the contract is quite outstanding and significant, Shugayev noted.

Also announced at the Le Bourget aerospace show that Russia had signed a three-year contract with Belarus for the delivery of Su-30SM fighter jets.

Also Shugayev said that Russia had delivered the first two out of 12 Mil Mi-35M helicopters to Nigeria under a contract to be implemented by 2018.

Russia’s weapons exporter Rosoboronexport expects to sign a contract with India soon on the delivery of S-400 Triumf air defense missile systems, Rosoboronexport Head Alexander Mikheyev said.

The Rosoboronexport chief also said that the deliveries of S-400 surface-to-air missile systems to China would begin in compliance with the schedule.

Source: Russian Aviation
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Re: 2017 Paris Air Show news #pas17

Post by Sonho1985 » 25 Jun 2017, 21:37

My first experience at the Paris Air Show, I went with my wife and kids on the public day (Saturday).

Overall dissapointing, not what I expected. Not a single Boeing aircraft to display, they all left on Friday.
Airbus only had the A380 left, while there was announced the also the 321NEO and 350 would still be there during the public days.
No more E190 and others...
At the indoor halls 3/4 of the stands were already abandoned or even empty, I was very looking forward to this exhibition being an engineering fanatic.
Having a look inside aircraft and cockpits was not allowed (kids + dad dissapointed again), because they gave only access to people with a special badge (who were invited or something like that...).

To end positive; the weather was nice and the flight demonstrations were amazing. And there was a KFC nearby Le Bourget...

So I think that it would be a lot more interesting to go during the week next time. Is there a way to get a visitor badge while not being a journalist or if you don't currently work in aviation industry?

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Re: 2017 Paris Air Show news #pas17

Post by jan_olieslagers » 25 Jun 2017, 21:55

Next time visit the Aero in Friedrichshafen and you'll get tech talk and cockpit visits as much as you can stomach. Not to Airbuses, though, neither to Boeings.

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