Electronic devices banned on Royal Jordanian (and other airlines) flights to the US and the UK

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Re: Royal Jordanian bans electronic devices on all flights to the United States

Post by Homo Aeroportus » 20 Mar 2017, 21:48

luchtzak wrote:
20 Mar 2017, 20:49

Apparently 14 airlines/countries affected ? Would like to know which ones ...
I'd be already "happy" to see something appearing on RJ web site ...

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Post by luchtzak » 20 Mar 2017, 22:18

RJ removed the tweet ...
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Post by quixoticguide » 20 Mar 2017, 23:08

Saudia is also affected
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Re: Royal Jordanian bans electronic devices on all flights to the United States

Post by sn26567 » 20 Mar 2017, 23:14

This whole story develops very mysteriously. It is as of Royal Jordanian disclosed something that had to remain secret.

Let me take a guess. The Trump Administration wants to introduce a Muslim ban in a different way. The DHS instructs the TSA to introduce a ban on electronic devices for all airlines coming from mainly Muslim African and Middle East countries (the list of countries remains a secret).

TSA sends secret instructions to the affected airlines, but RJ (and later Saudia) publishes the ban on Twitter to inform its passengers (and takes the tweet away hours later, maybe after realising its error or on instructions from TSA).

What do you do if you are a passenger? You look for alternative routings (e.g. via LHR) to arrive in the US on a "safe" airline...

Meanwhile, complete silence of the Trump Administration...: “We have no comment on potential security precautions, but will provide any update as appropriate”.

Very mysterious, I tell you! The Guardian seems to know (a little) more:

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... countries/
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Post by sn26567 » 20 Mar 2017, 23:56

Update: The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) seems to have acted on intelligence over a threat from AQAP (Al Qaeda in the Arabic Peninsula), which have the knowledge to build small explosive devices that can be hidden in laptops, etc.
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Re: Royal Jordanian bans electronic devices on all flights to the United States

Post by quixoticguide » 21 Mar 2017, 09:22

Associated Press is now reporting that flights from Amman AMM, Caïro CAI, Marrakech RAK, Jeddah JED, Kuwait KWI, Doha DOH, Riyad RUH, Istanbul IST, Abu Dhabi AUH & Dubai DXB to and from the United States are affected.

The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) seems to have acted on intelligence over a threat from AQAP (Al Qaeda in the Arabic Peninsula), which have the knowledge to build small explosive devices that can be hidden in laptops, etc.
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Re: Royal Jordanian bans electronic devices on all flights to the United States

Post by b720 » 21 Mar 2017, 13:03

It is harassment ... no more and no less.
Reading the circular it is clear that those airports are accused of lax security screening! DXB? AUH?
What next? Pax flying from those destinations can not wear underwear to the US?
For these measure to be credible all flights from those airports should be affected.. a "dangerous" devise can be carried on a US bound flight but not to LHR, CDG or anywhere else? A load of Bull ...

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Re: Royal Jordanian bans electronic devices on all flights to the United States

Post by sn26567 » 21 Mar 2017, 14:20

b720 wrote:
21 Mar 2017, 13:03
A load of Bull ...
What else did you expect from the current U.S. Administration?

In a statement the Department for Homeland Security said the government is “concerned” over terrorists targeting commercial aviation.

"The US government is concerned about terrorists' ongoing interest in targeting commercial aviation, including transportation hubs over the past two years, as evidenced by the 2015 airliner downing in Egypt; the 2016 attempted airliner downing in Somalia; and the 2016 armed attacks against airports in Brussels and Istanbul," the DHS said.

"Evaluated intelligence indicates that terrorist groups continue to target commercial aviation, to include smuggling explosive devices in various consumer items.
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US carriers are not affected by the ban. As if terrorists could not fly on U.S. airlines...

The ruling will reportedly affect nine airlines operating out of 10 cities, including Doha, Abu Dhabi and Istanbul.

The ban affects services from 10 cities: Abu Dhabi, Amman, Cairo, Casablanca, Doha, Dubai, Istanbul, Jeddah, Kuwait and Riyadh. It comes into force on March 25 until October 14, 2017.

Gulf airlines Qatar, Emirates and Etihad as well as Turkish Airlines could be the worst hit by the ban as they rely on transfer passengers who could need access to devices during the stopover. Travellers could now opt to travel via European hubs.
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Post by sn26567 » 21 Mar 2017, 15:36

It seems, according to Sky News and BBC, that the UK will follow the US and impose a ban on electronic devices on planes from certain countries. A missed opportunity for LHR!

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-39343971

The UK Brexit: from 28th country in the EU to 51st State of the US? :)
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Re: Royal Jordanian (and other airlines) ban electronic devices on all flights to the United States

Post by sn26567 » 21 Mar 2017, 20:46

Electronic ban: France is analysing the level of threat. No decision for the moment...
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Re: Royal Jordanian (and other airlines) ban electronic devices on all flights to the United States

Post by Acid-drop » 21 Mar 2017, 20:53

What can you hide in electronics than you can't hide in a teddy bear ?
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Post by sn26567 » 21 Mar 2017, 23:11

The airline electronics ban is already causing confusion and frustration

http://edition.cnn.com/2017/03/21/world ... index.html
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Post by quixoticguide » 22 Mar 2017, 10:30

France also thinking to join the UK and US
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Post by sn26567 » 23 Mar 2017, 17:59

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