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sn26567 wrote:Two of the three unions representing Air France's cabin crew will strike from 27 July to 2 August. Air France nevertheless hopes to operate 90% of the long-haul flights and 70% of the short- and medium-haul ones. Flights operated by KLM, Hop! and Delta will not be affected.
KLM staff is very unhappy with this AF strike. They've launched a petition towards AF staff, asking them to respect the passengers and not go on strike. At this very moment, the petition reached 7.788 signatures.

Wij KLM, KLC en Transavia personeel,
Doen een dringend beroep op onze AF collega's om de geschillen met uw directie op constructieve wijze te beslechten. Wij vragen u om daarbij af te zien van publieksonvriendelijke acties. Wij onderkennen uw situatie en voelen ons betrokken. Echter menen wij dat het verder onder druk zetten van de kaspositie geen oplossing zal bieden en de problemen slechts zal vergroten.


Nous, employés de la compagnie KLM, KLC et Transavia,
Demandons à nos collègues d Air France avec urgence, de trouver une solution constructive aux différends qui les séparent de la direction. Nous vous demandons de ne pas agir au détriment de nos passagers. Nous sommes préoccupés par la situation actuelle tout en comprenant les efforts qui vous sont demandés. Toute détérioration de notre trésorerie n apportera aucune solution mais au contraire nous poussera encore plus au bord du gouffre.

http://www.petities24.com/stop_de_staki ... air_france

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Passenger wrote:KLM staff is very unhappy with this AF strike.
Funny, because at the same time KLM Royal Dutch Airlines ground staff, represented by the FNV union, is threatening industrial action triggered by talks toward a new labour agreement.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/klm-roy ... aff-union/
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Air Europa (Spain) cancels 114 mostly international flights due to four-day pilot strike from 30 July to 02 August 2016.
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sn26567 wrote:Two of the three unions representing Air France's cabin crew will strike from 27 July to 2 August.
Forecast for tomorrow, 27 July:

Air France expects to operate more than 87% of its flights:
· 92% of its long-haul flights
· 90% of its domestic flights
· More than 80% of its medium-haul flights to and from Paris-CDG

37% of cabin crew are striking
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A German labour court has declared a 2012 strike by German Air Traffic Control union GdF illegal. Reason: during a collective labour agreement, trade unions should respect "social peace" that was agreed.

Another court now has to decide on the indemnity the trade Union has to pay to Frankfurt Airport. FraPort estimates the damage at 5,2 mio Euro.

http://www.wiwo.de/unternehmen/dienstle ... 30392.html

(I know this story isn't related to Belgian airports, but I thaught it's more on topic here then in Trivia)

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I heard it on the radio news, and wondered about posting here. I do think it is sufficiently on topic, as Belgian airports must have seen some services affected, too.
Unfortunately, it seems unavoidable to me that further strikes will come from this, at least if the German unions are somewhat the same as their Belgian counterparts: the "right to strike" is fundamental to them, and the present judgment may be considered countering it.

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sn26567 wrote:
Passenger wrote:KLM staff is very unhappy with this AF strike.
Funny, because at the same time KLM Royal Dutch Airlines ground staff, represented by the FNV union, is threatening industrial action triggered by talks toward a new labour agreement.
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/klm-roy ... aff-union/
KLM ground staff strike at AMS, only by members of the trade union FNV, is now announced for Thursday 28th July, "after 18h00". Other unions don't join the strike.

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Passenger wrote:KLM ground staff strike at AMS, only by members of the trade union FNV, is now announced for Thursday 28th July, "after 18h00". Other unions don't join the strike.
Keep in mind a strike at AMS often is something totally different than strikes at most other airports. I.e. security staff had strikes this year lasting a whopping 10 and 20 minutes. I expect something similar this time.

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sn26567 wrote:Two of the three unions representing Air France's cabin crew will strike from 27 July to 2 August.
Prognosis for 28 July:

Air France expects to operate close to 80% of its flights:
· more than 90% of its long-haul flights
· more than 80% of its domestic flights
· more than 70% of its medium-haul flights to and from Paris-CDG

36% of cabin crew are striking
· 37% on long-haul
· 31% on medium-haul
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Jetter wrote:
Passenger wrote:KLM ground staff strike at AMS, only by members of the trade union FNV, is now announced for Thursday 28th July, "after 18h00". Other unions don't join the strike.
Keep in mind a strike at AMS often is something totally different than strikes at most other airports. I.e. security staff had strikes this year lasting a whopping 10 and 20 minutes. I expect something similar this time.
Here it is: on Thursday, 09h00-13h00, no cargo and no mail will be loaded. Apparently luggage is not seen as cargo...

So far, all AMS-BRU-AMS flights are scheduled.

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sn26567 wrote:Air Europa (Spain) cancels 114 mostly international flights due to four-day pilot strike from 30 July to 02 August 2016.
Air Europa pilots have just cancelled their strike threat.
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sn26567 wrote:Two of the three unions representing Air France's cabin crew will strike from 27 July to 2 August.
Prognosis for Friday 29 July:

Air France expects to operate more than 80% of its flights
. more than 90% of its long-haul flights
. 85% of its domestic flights
. 75% of its medium-haul flights to and from Paris-CDG

37% of cabin crew are striking
. 39% on long-haul
. 33% on medium-haul

And if your flight is cancelled because of the strike, try to get a compensation from Air France! Good luck, as shown by the following story (in French): http://www.slate.fr/story/97423/air-fra ... emnisation
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sn26567 wrote:[And if your flight is cancelled because of the strike, try to get a compensation from Air France! Good luck, as shown by the following story (in French): http://www.slate.fr/story/97423/air-fra ... emnisation
In the actual EU-Rule 261/2004 and in the updated version, a strike is seen as extraordinary circumstance that waives the indemnity to be paid (150€-600 €). EU-Rule says that the responsability of airlines is "reduced or limited" during a strike, and all airlines agree that this means they have to take care of stranded clients when it's their own staff that is going on strike. Thus offering them a hotel and meals (or, when they were unable to contact the passenger, to refund the hotel costs).

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sn26567 wrote:Two of the three unions representing Air France's cabin crew will strike from 27 July to 2 August.
Prognosis for Saturday 30 July:

Air France expects to operate 80 % of its flights :

- more than 90 % of its long-haul flights
- more than 80 % of its domestic flights
- more than 70 % of its medium-haul flights to and from Paris-CDG

42 % of cabin crew are striking (more than on previous days)

- 44 % on long-haul
- 38 % on medium-haul
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sn26567 wrote:Two of the three unions representing Air France's cabin crew will strike from 27 July to 2 August.
Prognosis for Sunday 31 July:

Air France expects to operate more than 80 % of its flights :

- 90 % of its long-haul flights
- 80 % of its domestic flights
- 80 % of its medium-haul flights to and from Paris-CDG

41 % of cabin crew are striking

- 44 % on long-haul
- 32 % on medium-haul
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Jetter wrote:Keep in mind a strike at AMS often is something totally different than strikes at most other airports. I.e. security staff had strikes this year lasting a whopping 10 and 20 minutes. I expect something similar this time.
Here it is: on Thursday, 09h00-13h00, no cargo and no mail will be loaded. Apparently luggage is not seen as cargo... So far, all AMS-BRU-AMS flights are scheduled.
Passengers for Sunday's KL-1725 AMS-BRU (and other KLM flights) will be severly affected by the next round of social action by the FNV trade Union at AMS. Between 13h00 and 15h00, KLM's ground staff will not only give pamflets to the passengers at the check-in to explain why they protest, but they will also give all passengers small gifts. KLM's management has forbitten that the protesters wear KLM uniforms during their protest.

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sn26567 wrote:Two of the three unions representing Air France's cabin crew will strike from 27 July to 2 August.
Prognosis for Monday 1 August (the number of employees on strike seems to decrease):

Air France expects to operate more than 80 % of its flights :
. More than 95 % of its long-haul flights
. More than 80 % of its domestic flights
. More than 80 % of its medium-haul flights to and from Paris-CDG

32 % of cabin crew are striking
. 34 % on long-haul
. 23 % on medium-haul
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How may the multiple strikes impact the future of AF?
They still have a dominant market share on the domestic network (no direct french competitors, only EZY is there). However, they are facing hard competition on some european routes (both from legacy and lcc players) and the long haul segment sees fast growing competition on some (ex-) lucrative asian routes and even on east-Africa. North-american routes are mostly overcrowded, thus non making really money. So only Africa and South America seem to remain kind of cash machines... but for how long?
Any risk for AF to downsize ops... or even shut them down? I think they must adapt faster...

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Not Brussels, but the airport in a neighbouring country that never strikes, according to some...

EasyJet pilots in The Netherlands were on strike today from 6 to 10am. Eight flights from Schiphol airport were cancelled.

New strikes are foreseen in the future. The pilots ask for better pay during sickness leave, more rest between flights and a higher pension...
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sn26567 wrote:Two of the three unions representing Air France's cabin crew will strike from 27 July to 2 August.
Prognosis for Tuesday 2 August (last day of strike):

Air France expects to operate 90 % of its flights :

- 100 % of its long-haul flights with no capacity limitation
- almost 90 % of its domestic flights
- 85 % of its medium-haul flights to and from Paris-CDG

25 % of cabin crew are striking
- 25 % on long-haul
- 26 % on medium-haul
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