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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Established02 wrote:
lumumba wrote:Why is there one TNT flight out of Brussels to Jankoping?
Why is it not flying out of Liege?
Below is the explanation that I had in mind. Not sure if it is still correct or if it has ever been correct.

This TNT flight out of BRU is a cargo flight that mainly transports sensitive and urgent medical materials.

DHL used to have this contract. But when they downgraded their BRU hub in 2008, DHL no longer could offer a direct connection from BRU to Scandinavia. That's when TNT jumped in and took over this contract.

For some reasons the client seems to want to send his shipments only out of BRU and on a dedicated, direct flight.
Thanks a lot for your answer. ;)

The route started with a BAe 146 and was upgraded to a 737-300F some years ago.
Last year, TNT ended the operation of the route with its own aircraft and they subcontracted Jet Time Cargo. ;)

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Acid-drop wrote:
could it be something like donor organs?
could be but a 737 isn't small ...
Donor organs for elephants? Okay, I'm rambling now. :lol:

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Acid-drop wrote:not that logic, LGG is also specialized in pharma.
But if the client wants BRU, he gets BRU i guess ...
You barely save time, but what the client wants, the client gets ;)
When the goods have to be delivered to somewhere near Brussels, some 2 hours in a truck is a bit more then barely. Specially when it's medical stuff with urgent delivery.

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Ozzie1969 wrote:
Acid-drop wrote:not that logic, LGG is also specialized in pharma.
But if the client wants BRU, he gets BRU i guess ...
You barely save time, but what the client wants, the client gets ;)
By "urgent and sensitive medical materials", do we understand pharmaceuticals or could it be something like donor organs?
Based upon quite some medical documentaries on Vier tv (Topdokters), VTM tv (Catherine) and other tv, I would say that organ transport is never done with cargo flights: because medical staff flies both ways, and because the organ is the sole "cargo" and thus needs a tailor made flight schedule.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Passenger wrote:
Ozzie1969 wrote:
Acid-drop wrote:not that logic, LGG is also specialized in pharma.
But if the client wants BRU, he gets BRU i guess ...
You barely save time, but what the client wants, the client gets ;)
By "urgent and sensitive medical materials", do we understand pharmaceuticals or could it be something like donor organs?
Based upon quite some medical documentaries on Vier tv (Topdokters), VTM tv (Catherine) and other tv, I would say that organ transport is never done with cargo flights: because medical staff flies both ways, and because the organ is the sole "cargo" and thus needs a tailor made flight schedule.
Organs are often send by regular passenger flights. Some keep it in the cockpit with a signature of crew and handlers, others will take it in the belly. But it will always be handled as top prio and very sensitive. Private planes are used when there is no convenient regular flight schedule available.

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Liege is not available from 15.30-20.00 UTC (17.30-22.00 local time) - staffing https://t.co/wqngOpW7gh

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Many G4S employees airside this noon in Brussels at stand 206, next to a Tunisair aircraft destination Tunis. Fire brigade present for a water salute. In honour of a (repatriated) victim 22/03? Impressive action.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Hue wrote:Many G4S employees airside this noon in Brussels at stand 206, next to a Tunisair aircraft destination Tunis. Fire brigade present for a water salute. In honour of a (repatriated) victim 22/03? Impressive action.
Last weekend, a G4S employee of Tunisian origin died in a car accident on the E40. He was working at BRU during the 22/03 attacks, but survived.
I guess his body is flown back to Tunisia today.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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MD-11forever wrote:
Hue wrote:Many G4S employees airside this noon in Brussels at stand 206, next to a Tunisair aircraft destination Tunis. Fire brigade present for a water salute. In honour of a (repatriated) victim 22/03? Impressive action.
Last weekend, a G4S employee of Tunisian origin died in a car accident on the E40. He was working at BRU during the 22/03 attacks, but survived.
I guess his body is flown back to Tunisia today.
His car was hit by a deer, crossing the E40:

https://www.aviation24.be/forums/viewtopic ... 40#p335077
and
http://www.hln.be/regio/nieuws-uit-bout ... -a2711801/

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Lots of arrivals going into a short hold.

Runway restrictions (only 01 for landings)?

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Passenger wrote:Lots of arrivals going into a short hold.p

Runway restrictions (only 01 for landings)?
On my return flight from MAN this evening the pilot told that many flights were late (including our incoming flight) because of single runway operation. We nevertheless landed on 07L, and not on 01 like many other flights.
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Hi,

Had to pick up my wife ... indeed +1h ...
Tought it was thunderstorms...

Thx...

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If you look at news reports about weather in Riemst yesterday, it's easy to conclude thunderstorms in the east of Belgium were very challenging for area control as pilots want to avoid cumulonimbus. Probably also causing runway changes at EBBR. When there are no incidents, these events go undetected by media, but circumstances like yesterday result in an extremely high workload for ATC.

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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If Flightradar is right, SN-2049 Brussels-Birmingham returned to Brussels when the channel was already crossed, then did two go-arounds at BRU and then diverted to... Lille.

OO-DWI - RJ100

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 49#9df788c

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Passenger wrote:If Flightradar is right, SN-2049 Brussels-Birmingham returned to Brussels when the channel was already crossed, then did two go-arounds at BRU and then diverted to... Lille.

OO-DWI - RJ100

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 49#9df788c
Most unusual indeed. Maybe LIL was the best airport where stranded passengers could continue to their final destination with another aircraft from another airline? Just guessing...
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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sn26567 wrote:
Passenger wrote:If Flightradar is right, SN-2049 Brussels-Birmingham returned to Brussels when the channel was already crossed, then did two go-arounds at BRU and then diverted to... Lille.

OO-DWI - RJ100

https://www.flightradar24.com/data/flig ... 49#9df788c
Most unusual indeed. Maybe LIL was the best airport where stranded passengers could continue to their final destination with another aircraft from another airline? Just guessing...
Wellcome home:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... wi#9e14975

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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OO-DWI returned because of technical problems, and later had complications during the landing:

http://avherald.com/h?article=4991732a&opt=0
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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Most unusual indeed. Maybe LIL was the best airport where stranded passengers could continue to their final destination with another aircraft from another airline? Just guessing...
Lille was the nearest airport with good enough visibility conditions (no low cloud or rain/fog).

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Flight Geneva - Antwerp of this evening cancelled.

due 21:30 CE094 Geneve Cointrin Cancelled

Reason? technical?

Flight ANR-GVA was as per schedule.

source : http://www.antwerp-airport.be/contentpa ... p=aankomst

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Re: Abnormalities in BRU-ANR-CRL-LGG-OST in 2016

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Jetairfly flight from Ostend to Heraklion (JAF43E) , scheduled to depart at 06:05, has left at 09:20.

Any ideas why there is this delay of over 3 hours?

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