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Post by convair » 16 Apr 2017, 15:38

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We all know that the police unions run BRU. And they don't want to be replaced (or compete with) robots!
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Post by MrBrightside » 26 Apr 2017, 10:18

http://www.lesoir.be/1490730/article/ac ... -cette-ann

http://trends.knack.be/economie/bedrijv ... 45283.html

Dat betekent dat we dit jaar zullen beslissen hoe de pier er zou moeten uitzien, hoeveel gates en loopbruggen er moeten komen, of de pier wordt ingericht om de A380 te kunnen ontvangen

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by sn26567 » 26 Apr 2017, 10:39

Welcome to Luchtzak, MrBrightside.

May I ask you to post in English in this forum? There is another forum for posting in Dutch, French and German. Thanks for your understanding.

I translate your first post: "This means that we have to decide this year how the pier should look, how many gates and jet bridges we need, and whether the pier should be equipped for the A380."
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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by sn26567 » 26 Apr 2017, 10:56

From what I understand, Pier A West will be decided this year. Taking into account the time necessary to obtain the permits and to finalise the design and construction, it should enter into service in 2023, when it will really be needed to accommodate the increased number of passengers. It will also facilitate the boarding with more passengers being able to use jet bridges rather than being transported by bus to their planes.

A future Terminal C (also mentioned in the 2040 vision) will not be needed before 2040, when CEO Arnaud Feist thinks that the airport will handle 40 million passengers and employ 120,000 people.
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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by RoMax » 26 Apr 2017, 11:45

sn26567 wrote:
26 Apr 2017, 10:56
A future Terminal C (also mentioned in the 2040 vision) will not be needed before 2040, when CEO Arnaud Feist thinks that the airport will handle 40 million passengers and employ 120,000 people.
Pier C is foreseen in two major development phases in the 2040 vision, with phase 1 of it likely to be developed as from 2035 (could be a bit earlier or a bit later of course) , though second part of Pier C is indeed foreseen really at the very end of Vision 2040.
But that's all very long term anyway and difficult to predict what the exact needs will be then.

For Pier A West it is important to develop the concept this year to start with detailed designs and requesting the necessary permits as this will be a matter of years before they'll even be able to start building something, which will take another few years.
Public communication on this project is a positive sign ;)

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by teach » 26 Apr 2017, 13:29

Does anyone know if and when they will start expanding the parking facilities? It was mentioned here a while back that Front Park 3 would be expanded, but so far nothing has happened. On the news this morning it was said that people were advised to come to BRU by public transport because pretty much every parking space is taken, so there's clearly a need for more space.

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by Yuqu12 » 26 Apr 2017, 14:52

Update on the parking: there is none, everything is full at BRU.

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by Established02 » 26 Apr 2017, 15:12

Why is there a parking issue now, when we're not even in a holiday period?

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by Yuqu12 » 26 Apr 2017, 15:17

Apparently the Dutch are.

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Post by Flying Scout » 26 Apr 2017, 15:17

Indeed, Holiday in Holland and tomorrow its 'Koningsdag' so national holiday.

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by sn26567 » 26 Apr 2017, 16:25

From Brussels Airport: In the series "small things, big difference": the flights on the screens in the baggage reclaim hall are now arranged in alphabetical order.

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by Stij » 26 Apr 2017, 17:01

sn26567 wrote:
26 Apr 2017, 16:25
From Brussels Airport: In the series "small things, big difference": the flights on the screens in the baggage reclaim hall are now arranged in alphabetical order.


In the US it's also for arrivals and departures... it's true that it's more logic!

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by RoMax » 26 Apr 2017, 17:11

Established02 wrote:
26 Apr 2017, 15:12
Why is there a parking issue now, when we're not even in a holiday period?
The busiest periods for the front parkings are usually not the main holiday periods, but those periods where it is a combination of a lot of local business traffic and higher yield leisure people that travel outside the main season and short trip leisure traffic, so that's why BAC/Interparking usually has the biggest problems in May/June and September. Actual holiday traffic is more often using the cheaper parking lots a bit further away, either at the airport (such as BRUcargo) or outside the airport. The holiday period is also when troubles arise for the drop off, as a much bigger portion of that traffic is dropped off (family/friends/relatives or dedicated airport transport companies and even taxi) rather than driving themselves.

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by Boavida » 26 Apr 2017, 17:41

Aside from Pier A West, I hope they're also thinking about a new departures area... Today it's the most sad thing I've ever seen at an airport: walking trough a tent towards the departure hall from the drop off area is really not a long term solution... to say the least. Also the horrible bus station needs an update urgently (and not only some fresh paint like they've done recently). I hope BAC realizes this, and not focussing all their attention on new piers...

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by luchtzak » 26 Apr 2017, 17:56

sn26567 wrote:
26 Apr 2017, 16:25
From Brussels Airport: In the series "small things, big difference": the flights on the screens in the baggage reclaim hall are now arranged in alphabetical order.

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I saw that last Monday, very handy!

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by Atlantis » 26 Apr 2017, 18:28

Boavida wrote:
26 Apr 2017, 17:41
Aside from Pier A West, I hope they're also thinking about a new departures area... Today it's the most sad thing I've ever seen at an airport: walking trough a tent towards the departure hall from the drop off area is really not a long term solution... to say the least. Also the horrible bus station needs an update urgently (and not only some fresh paint like they've done recently). I hope BAC realizes this, and not focussing all their attention on new piers...
Don't worry, everything will be renewed but it takes time, really a lot of time.

When you are an outsider you don't know how complicated everything is to apply, to arrange, to make the budget available via the shareholders, permissions, and what is taking the longest part is the bureaucracy.
Don't forget that it is not easy to start the complete makeover as you speak about more than 1000 busses who are passing daily. You have to find a back up for this. Besides, it is not making sence and spending money for a temporary solution while you have 2040 where everything is included according to a very tight schedule.

Once again, for an outsider everything is simple but do you really believe that BRU is not aware of this?? BRU is the FIRST one who think about this.

But once again, everything will be done on time.

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by flightlover » 27 Apr 2017, 00:00

Atlantis wrote:
26 Apr 2017, 18:28
Boavida wrote:
26 Apr 2017, 17:41
Aside from Pier A West, I hope they're also thinking about a new departures area... Today it's the most sad thing I've ever seen at an airport: walking trough a tent towards the departure hall from the drop off area is really not a long term solution... to say the least. Also the horrible bus station needs an update urgently (and not only some fresh paint like they've done recently). I hope BAC realizes this, and not focussing all their attention on new piers...
Don't worry, everything will be renewed but it takes time, really a lot of time.

When you are an outsider you don't know how complicated everything is to apply, to arrange, to make the budget available via the shareholders, permissions, and what is taking the longest part is the bureaucracy.
Don't forget that it is not easy to start the complete makeover as you speak about more than 1000 busses who are passing daily. You have to find a back up for this. Besides, it is not making sence and spending money for a temporary solution while you have 2040 where everything is included according to a very tight schedule.

Once again, for an outsider everything is simple but do you really believe that BRU is not aware of this?? BRU is the FIRST one who think about this.

But once again, everything will be done on time.
'Ahum', I see a lot of double spendings when driving over tarmac at BRU. True, sometimes there is a longixch period (2 years) between two events, but still.

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by Freken » 19 May 2017, 15:07

Brussels Airport has started construction of the two new airside fire stations. They will replace the current fire stations that have a lower capacity and dating infrastructure.

http://www.luchtzak.be/airports/brussel ... -stations/

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by luchtzak » 19 May 2017, 17:21

Some of the seat USB chargers and outlets in terminal A are not working.

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Re: BRU infrastructure: future

Post by Frederic_K » 19 May 2017, 19:38

luchtzak wrote:
19 May 2017, 17:21
Some of the seat USB chargers and outlets in terminal A are not working.
As per my recent experience, some of the seat USB chargers and outlets in terminal A are working. Majority isn't .

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