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firrech
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Different rate between SN and AA for same route??

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I wanted to book BRU-SAN FRANCISCO-BRU from 24/03/05 to 05/04/05 and i'm very surprised to see that for the same flight (AA or SN), the basic rate is same but the taxes are 63 for AA and 105 for SN?????
So the total rate is 463 euros on AA and 505 on SNBA?

Can you explain me that?

Thanks.

Flybe
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Post by Flybe »

This could be an interesting topic for you: https://www.aviation24.be/postlite6722-taxes.html

So probably the difference is due to different fuel surcharges, or reductions in airport taxes that one of the companies gets and the other doesn't.

At some airline websites (i haven't checked with SN and AA yet) just before you have to type in your credit card data for purchasing a ticket, you can see how the taxes are split up in their details. (e.g. Wizz Air has this, just click on "details" next the the stated taxes).

Hope that this helps to clarify things, of course i'm not 100% sure, but still almost 100% 8)

Greets,

Pieter

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Reductions.....?

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Flybe wrote:So probably the difference is due .... reductions in airport taxes that one of the companies gets and the other doesn't.
Greets, Pieter

Pieter, you surprise me.... 2x :o + :o

In the ticketing manual, except from the rule that taxes are non-commisionable, there is no other rule. Nowhere is there mentioned: reductions.
There is a list of exemptions, but no reductions....

And preferential treatment of an airline is that allowed?
Airlines will collect the taxes on their tickets, and remit them in periodical statements to the authority concerned.

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Post by waldova »

I just heard that this could be because american carriers don't have to pay landing taxes on us soil while other carriers have to pay these taxes. This could explain the big difference in taxes.

Flybe
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Post by Flybe »

Pieter, you surprise me....
Indeed Fons, mea culpa :oops:

Well, i just told the possible reasons that were mentionned in the topic above, although i had to admit i was also not sure about reductions on taxes. But i'm surely not very knowledgeable on airport taxes. So it must be the fuel surcharges then?

Some time ago i read some article about reactions from a government or institution that it isn't fair to raise the taxes because of the fuel surcharge, while airlines keep the basic fare low. This would be deceiving the clients, who normally in the beginning are seduced by the low basic fares. But i can't seem to find back the article...

Ah, and about the "tax reductions", i figured that it could be possible, as - if i recall well - the Belgian government told once that big companies get "tax reductions" (een gunsttarief) in Belgium. It was with the discussion that Inbev (Interbrew) could possible move out of Belgium. Then there was a small discussion about how much taxes they need to pay here, and i remember an official from the government saying that they already got a "gunsttarief" because they were so big. Don't know if it's true or not, but i figured, if it's possible for Inbev, it could also be possible for SNBA or for sure for AA in the US of A...

Greets,

Pieter

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Post by Lyulka »

I noticed a comparable thing last week when booking a flight to Malta. Booking the flight with SN Brussels (in codeshare with KM, on a KM plane) was 30 € cheaper than booking the same flight with Air Malta itself! The strange thing was that taxes were not included yet, so they could not be responsible for the difference.
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Post by SN30952 »

One has to check the departure point, because fares are directional.
So all depends where you start.

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Post by Sabena_690 »

Would like to see Flying Belgian replying to this topic, as he is a specialist in these matters.

If we are talking about a difference in the basic fare (without taxes), it's due to the fact that airline X still has availability in a cheaper booking class in comparison with airline Y.

Frederic
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