V-Bird stops operation !!
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V-Bird stops operation !!
This morning the Niederrhein Airport authorities hava advised that V-Bird is bancrupt and stops all flights as of this morning.
Already found the info. Sorry for the German Language.
VBird stellt Flugbetrieb ein
Die niederländische Billigfluglinie VBird hat mit sofortiger Wirkung ihren Flugbetrieb eingestellt. Betroffen ist davon vor allem der Niederrhein-Flughafen in Weeze.
Von dem ehemaligen Militärflughafen im Kreis Kleve flog VBird bislang insgesamt 17 Ziele in Europa an. Für betroffene Fluggäste soll am Vormittag eine Telefon-Hotline eingerichtet werden. Am Nachmittag will die Fluggesellschaft weitere Einzelheiten zur Einstellung des Flugbetriebes mitteilen.
Source: WDR Homepage.
Best Regards,
Yvo
VBird stellt Flugbetrieb ein
Die niederländische Billigfluglinie VBird hat mit sofortiger Wirkung ihren Flugbetrieb eingestellt. Betroffen ist davon vor allem der Niederrhein-Flughafen in Weeze.
Von dem ehemaligen Militärflughafen im Kreis Kleve flog VBird bislang insgesamt 17 Ziele in Europa an. Für betroffene Fluggäste soll am Vormittag eine Telefon-Hotline eingerichtet werden. Am Nachmittag will die Fluggesellschaft weitere Einzelheiten zur Einstellung des Flugbetriebes mitteilen.
Source: WDR Homepage.
Best Regards,
Yvo
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From Luchtvaartnieuws.nl :AN124 wrote: I can't find anything on dutch aviation related news sites.
Best Regards,
Yvo
(Sorry in Dutch )
V Bird toestellen aan de grond
08-10-2004
DRIEBERGEN – De low cost maatschappij V Bird houdt vanaf vanochtend (8 oktober) 4 uur haar vluchten aan de grond. Dit bevestigt de woordvoerder Holger Terhorst van de luchthaven Dusseldorf Weeze (voorheen Niederrhein) aan Luchtvaartnieuws. “Ons noodplan is in werking getreden sinds 5 uur vanochtend. We vangen mensen op in ons restaurant en zoeken alternatieve reisverbindingen voor degenen die vandaag weg moeten.”
Terhorst meldt dat de luchthaven verrast is door deze situatie. Men verwachtte een goede afloop van de onderhandelingen van V Bird met de IMCA groep, mede-investeerder in de ExelAviationGroup.
Bij V Bird is op dit moment niemand voor een reactie bereikbaar. Vanmiddag om 15.00 uur geeft de maatschappij een persconferentie op de luchthaven van Maastricht.
Reizigers die informatie willen over hun reisplannen kunnen bellen met een call centre dat door de luchthaven is geopend, tel. 49 (0)2837 66-61 11.
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...but buying a bancrupt company is cheaper than taking over an operational one....You don't have to take over the debt and start with a clean account !
Erik de Vliegr is a financial crook ( a governmental report in France has called him exactly that ,after the failed take-over of Air Liberté,where he dissapeared with a couple of millions...)
he still wants to set up his own LCC so NRN and the shatters of V-Bird come in handy and cheap...
Erik de Vliegr is a financial crook ( a governmental report in France has called him exactly that ,after the failed take-over of Air Liberté,where he dissapeared with a couple of millions...)
he still wants to set up his own LCC so NRN and the shatters of V-Bird come in handy and cheap...
beaucaire wrote:Erik de Vlieger is a financial crook ( a governmental report in France has called him exactly that, after the failed take-over of Air Liberté,where he disappeared with a couple of millions...)
fftopic:Indeed, but the same French government gave him a licence for AlsaceExel a few months later. How did he get clean?
André
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Because there is a difference between "personne morale e.a. a holding " and "personne physique e.a. Erik de Vlieger"
You can accuse a person like de Vlieger because his actions during that unfortunate clash of Air Liberté were conducted by himself und under great media-coverage, but if a holding like "Exel Aviation Group" is requesting to operate shedules airtrafic in France ,there is niot much the authorities can legally do to refuse...
You can accuse a person like de Vlieger because his actions during that unfortunate clash of Air Liberté were conducted by himself und under great media-coverage, but if a holding like "Exel Aviation Group" is requesting to operate shedules airtrafic in France ,there is niot much the authorities can legally do to refuse...
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A short history
Here is what preceded:
A bankruptcy, which two creditors requested, has been ternauwernood turned away a couple of weeks ago, with 500,000 euro, on table coming from Herman, neighbour man, Buurman, the majority shareholder of VBird and the man behind Airport Niederrhein, and from Amsterdam investor Erik the aviator, De Vlieger.
There still was an outstanding debt of a few millions (?!?) from the start up of VBird. According to neighbour man, Buurman, these debts are related to the lease of planes and the supply of kerosene.
Then there was the conflict with Irish EUjet, that says they have still a credit balance from VBird for the leasing a Fokker 100.
VBird has been disputing that and says that the EUjet performed bad and that the the supply of a second, manned Fokker 100 did not comply withcontract. As a result of what VBird suffered large damages.
Also there was a dispute with Globe Ground services the ground handling company for VBird @ Niederrhein. According the Berlin company there were no longer problems then.
The future of VBird depended on new shareholders.
Neighbour man, Buurman said that that would be resolved by the end of October. The potential shareholders would come from the Netherlands and the United States. One of them is the aviator, De Vlieger.
Neighbour man, Buurman estimated that VBird must expand rapidly because its current organisation is too large to keep three planes in the air.
Neighbour man, Buurman would anyway prefer to sell VBird, he then said.He most probably knew waht he was talking about!
Neighbour man, Buurman has virtually all the shares of the Niederrhein Airport and wants to develop there other projects.
The destiny of Niederrhein Airport depends on VBird, that generates 80% of Niederrhein's passengers traffic. But neighbour man, Buurman denies that.
Kreis Kleve intended to allow a credit for bridging the dificult situation, of some 6.5 million, but neighbour man Buurman refused saying this would bring subsidy-problems.
(Strange that not all the words could be translated, isn't it?)
A bankruptcy, which two creditors requested, has been ternauwernood turned away a couple of weeks ago, with 500,000 euro, on table coming from Herman, neighbour man, Buurman, the majority shareholder of VBird and the man behind Airport Niederrhein, and from Amsterdam investor Erik the aviator, De Vlieger.
There still was an outstanding debt of a few millions (?!?) from the start up of VBird. According to neighbour man, Buurman, these debts are related to the lease of planes and the supply of kerosene.
Then there was the conflict with Irish EUjet, that says they have still a credit balance from VBird for the leasing a Fokker 100.
VBird has been disputing that and says that the EUjet performed bad and that the the supply of a second, manned Fokker 100 did not comply withcontract. As a result of what VBird suffered large damages.
Also there was a dispute with Globe Ground services the ground handling company for VBird @ Niederrhein. According the Berlin company there were no longer problems then.
The future of VBird depended on new shareholders.
Neighbour man, Buurman said that that would be resolved by the end of October. The potential shareholders would come from the Netherlands and the United States. One of them is the aviator, De Vlieger.
Neighbour man, Buurman estimated that VBird must expand rapidly because its current organisation is too large to keep three planes in the air.
Neighbour man, Buurman would anyway prefer to sell VBird, he then said.He most probably knew waht he was talking about!
Neighbour man, Buurman has virtually all the shares of the Niederrhein Airport and wants to develop there other projects.
The destiny of Niederrhein Airport depends on VBird, that generates 80% of Niederrhein's passengers traffic. But neighbour man, Buurman denies that.
Kreis Kleve intended to allow a credit for bridging the dificult situation, of some 6.5 million, but neighbour man Buurman refused saying this would bring subsidy-problems.
(Strange that not all the words could be translated, isn't it?)
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Very very sad news...
Indeed, another one bites the dust, and it's not going to be the last one this winter...
ExelAviationGroup did take over Dutchbird, so part of the rumors are true...
ILFC is indeed very fast! Why is that? Such a "rescue operation" seems very costly, can the planes otherwise be inpounded?
Indeed, another one bites the dust, and it's not going to be the last one this winter...
ExelAviationGroup did take over Dutchbird, so part of the rumors are true...
ILFC is indeed very fast! Why is that? Such a "rescue operation" seems very costly, can the planes otherwise be inpounded?
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Correct André ..... and can you see now also why I didn't wanted to answer any longer to ,, bruspotter ,, in forum QUOTE After DHL will we see Lo-Cost into Brussels? UNQUOTE ?sn26567 wrote:Didn't Fons say, a few hours ago, that Michael O'Leary predicted a blood bath this winter for LCCs...?
Sad
Besides from the (although I can understand) poor english he's writing, the worse is that there was no sence at all in what he was telling .............
BRU has become, ** NO (sorry) READ ** IS a mix of SNBA and VIRGIN EXPRESS. Let's hope that those 2 airlines becomes THE mayor national (schedulded) airlines within Belgium, (regardless TUI and TCW as they have their own Touroperators behind them, and (hopefully) should not face and problems).
Greetz,
Too sad. Here you have another article. I'm sorry but it's in Dutch.
Schuldenlast zet V Bird mogelijk aan de grond
door Arnold Burlage
NIEDERRHEIN - De Nederlandse prijsvechter V Bird, die low-budgetvluchten uitvoert vanaf de luchthaven Niederrhein, pal over de grens bij Nijmegen, is in financiële moeilijkheden. Gedelegeerd commissaris Henny Pelsers, statutair ook de enige directeur van de maatschappij, heeft dat tegenover deze krant bevestigd.
De Amsterdamse zakenman en luchtvaarttycoon Erik de Vlieger, die inmiddels tien luchtvaartmaatschappijen bezit, is in gesprek over een reddingspoging. Hij heeft samen met de investeerder Herman Buurman, grootaandeelhouder van V Bird, 500.000 euro op tafel gelegd om een faillissementsaanvraag van twee crediteuren af te houden en tijd te winnen voor een reddingsplan. V Bird telt 178 medewerkers, een vloot van vier Airbus toestellen en vervoerde dit jaar tot dusver 693.000 passagiers uit Nederland, Duitsland en België. De stekker gaat eruit als er geen oplossing wordt gevonden voor de vorderingen, die inmiddels tussen de 10 à 15 miljoen euro zouden bedragen.
Source: Reiskrant.nl
Schuldenlast zet V Bird mogelijk aan de grond
door Arnold Burlage
NIEDERRHEIN - De Nederlandse prijsvechter V Bird, die low-budgetvluchten uitvoert vanaf de luchthaven Niederrhein, pal over de grens bij Nijmegen, is in financiële moeilijkheden. Gedelegeerd commissaris Henny Pelsers, statutair ook de enige directeur van de maatschappij, heeft dat tegenover deze krant bevestigd.
De Amsterdamse zakenman en luchtvaarttycoon Erik de Vlieger, die inmiddels tien luchtvaartmaatschappijen bezit, is in gesprek over een reddingspoging. Hij heeft samen met de investeerder Herman Buurman, grootaandeelhouder van V Bird, 500.000 euro op tafel gelegd om een faillissementsaanvraag van twee crediteuren af te houden en tijd te winnen voor een reddingsplan. V Bird telt 178 medewerkers, een vloot van vier Airbus toestellen en vervoerde dit jaar tot dusver 693.000 passagiers uit Nederland, Duitsland en België. De stekker gaat eruit als er geen oplossing wordt gevonden voor de vorderingen, die inmiddels tussen de 10 à 15 miljoen euro zouden bedragen.
Source: Reiskrant.nl