Trivia 2018 (miscellaneous news)

[Passenger]

Big uproar in the Dutch media yesterday and today: AMS Amsterdam Schiphol Airport plans to charge the use of their Kiss & Ride Zone. Reason given: "road traffic into Schiphol is more then congested, so we have get more passengers onto the railways".

Figures for 2017 (Source: Royal Schiphol Group):

68,5 mio passengers in 2017, from which 21 mio started their journey out of AMS;
42,9 % came by train;
22,3 % was brought by car;
13,4 % came by taxi;
11,2 % parked their car;
6,3 % came by shuttle bus, group bus or taxibus;
3,4 % other / non specified.

[convair]

Big uproar in the Dutch media yesterday and today: AMS Amsterdam Schiphol Airport plans to charge the use of their Kiss & Ride Zone. Reason given: "road traffic into Schiphol is more then congested, so we have get more passengers onto the railways".

Figures for 2017 (Source: Royal Schiphol Group):

68,5 mio passengers in 2017, from which 21 mio started their journey out of AMS;
42,9 % came by train;
22,3 % was brought by car;
13,4 % came by taxi;
11,2 % parked their car;
6,3 % came by shuttle bus, group bus or taxibus;
3,4 % other / non specified.

bicycle of course!

[jan_olieslagers]

Impressive that Schiphol gets roughly two thirds of their pax from transfer so only 1/3 "origin and destination"; what would be Zaventem's figure?

[sn26567]

Impressive that Schiphol gets roughly two thirds of their pax from transfer so only 1/3 "origin and destination"; what would be Zaventem's figure?

Between 15 and 20 % transfer and transit pax at BRU: https://www.aviation24.be/airports/bruss ... 12-months/

But since Lufthansa has declared that SN is a point-to-point airline...

[Poiu]

Impressive that Schiphol gets roughly two thirds of their pax from transfer so only 1/3 "origin and destination"; what would be Zaventem's figure?

Between 15 and 20 % transfer and transit pax at BRU: https://www.aviation24.be/airports/bruss ... 12-months/

But since Lufthansa has declared that SN is a point-to-point airline...

I honestly think that transit traffic should be taxed, as it contributes a lot towards saturation of airports and airspace.

[sn26567]

I honestly think that transit traffic should be taxed, as it contributes a lot towards saturation of airports and airspace.

On the other hand, transit traffic helps using larger planes on trunk roads, contributing to less congestion...

[Poiu]

On the other hand, transit traffic helps using larger planes on trunk roads, contributing to less congestion...

Planes going by ROAD??
Joking apart, I agree with you when the aircraft can’t be filled with point to point punters.
But what about British people flying LHR-AMS-BKK whilst, at the same time, the Dutch fly AMS-LHR-BKK? Today transit passengers pay less airport taxes, which makes transfer flight cheaper than direct ones. Good for competition but it saturates airports and airways, which could otherwise partially be used for new destinations or more competition on direct routes. On top of that there would be less delays and cancelations.

[Passenger]

Peace to all people from good will...
https://www.airlive.net/breaking-fight- ... ys-pilots/

[Passenger]

Dutch charter airline (or air broker) Fly Orange (FlyOrange.nl) cancels all flights, and the company announces it has filed for bankruptcy:

"...Beste passagiers van FlyOrange,

Tot onze grote spijt moeten wij u helaas mededelen dat alle vluchten van Fly Orange zijn geannuleerd.

Zoals u wellicht via de media en onze Facebookpagina hebt vernomen, komt een van onze partners zijn verplichtingen niet na. Zij voeren de afgesproken en vooruit betaalde vluchten niet uit en daardoor is Fly Orange niet in staat zijn verplichtingen naar de passagiers na te komen.

Hierdoor zijn wij daarom helaas genoodzaakt alle activiteiten te stoppen. Wij hebben er altijd naar gestreefd zo goed mogelijke service te verlenen naar onze passagiers en om in deze situatie de schade voor de passagiers zoveel mogelijk te beperken.

Om de vooruitbetaalde gelden naar de nalatende partij terug te vorderen, heeft Fly Orange vandaag faillissement aan moeten vragen. Zodra de rechtbank een curator heeft aangewezen, zal dit naar de gedupeerde passagiers worden gecommuniceerd zodat zij zich kunnen melden als schuldeiser. De curator zal er na faillissement op toezien dat eventueel teruggevorderde gelden worden verdeeld over de schuldeisers.

Wij benadrukken nogmaals dat onze oprichters/eigenaren en alle medewerkers ook slachtoffer zijn van deze situatie. Wij zijn eerlijke ondernemers en hebben altijd naar eer en geweten gehandeld. Ook wij raken hiermee ons bedrijf, onze banen en onze investeringen kwijt. We hopen dat een ieder dit voor ogen houdt en de rust bewaart.

Namens het hele FlyOrange team, bieden wij onze oprechte excuses voor al het ongemak aan.

https://www.rtlnieuws.nl/nederland/vluc ... odemieterd

https://www.facebook.com/flyorange.nl/?ref=br_rs

https://www.flyorange.nl/nl

[Passenger]

Remember this serious incident/accident at AMS, reported on the homepage on 23th February 2017? "...This afternoon a FlyBe DHC-8-400 suffered a main gear collapse on landing at a very windy Amsterdam Schiphol airport..."
https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/flybe ... hol-movie/

Update: today, this Dash-8-400 G-JECP performed a very short test flight AMS-AMS:
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/airc ... p#1d48f5bf

[luchtzak]

An effort to take a picture of the lunar eclipse from the cockpit overflying Greece, planet Mars is just below the moon. 1 sec. f/4,5 108 mm ISO 3200 manual focus.
#lunareclipse #moon #mars
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[lumumba]

An effort to take a picture of the lunar eclipse from the cockpit overflying Greece, planet Mars is just below the moon. 1 sec. f/4,5 10 8 mm ISO 3200 manual focus.
#lunareclipse #moon #mars
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IMG_7939.jpg

Nice

[Passenger]

(this is a reply to a post in the Air Belgium topic, which became a bit too off topic there)

... ... As an example: flights departing from BRU without a slot delaying their departure due to a restriction somewhere along the route are rather rare these days. Lots of traffic, lots of bad weather, and a few strikes here and there cause more than a little mess and headaches at EuroControl. Flights often also tend to end up with multiple regulations limiting when they can depart...

I haven't found the Eurocontrol June 2018 figures yet, but here are these from May 2018:
https://www.eurocontrol.int/sites/defau ... y-2018.pdf

[nordikcam]

Uninviting and almost funny...
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/2018 ... suspended/

[luchtzak]

Photoshop fail: newspaper De Standaard photoshops another aircraft on this picture, in the background you can spot a TUI aircraft taking off on the real runway (07R).
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[sn26567]

Air Italy's unions are already threatening to strike because the airline is planning to transfer 51 ground staff from Olbia to Milan-Malpensa to boost its growth plans.

This is only TWO MONTHS after it launched its first flight.

On the way to becoming Italy's new flag carrier, in the acceptions?

https://airwaysmag.com/airlines/air-ita ... yndicates/

[luchtzak]

Drastic measures are needed at Jet Airways, India's biggest full-service carrier. The airline told its pilots that the airline may be grounded in 60 days unless cost-cutting measures including cutting wages are put in place.

[Passenger]

Drastic measures are needed at Jet Airways, India's biggest full-service carrier. The airline told its pilots that the airline may be grounded in 60 days unless cost-cutting measures including cutting wages are put in place.

and they may expect an unforeseen bill from their ground handler at Riyadh:

from AirportWebcam on Twitter: "...Jet Airways 9W523 Riyadh to Mumbai (Boeing 737-800 VT-JFS) overran the runway after an aborted take-off at 2115 last night. The flight was cancelled, and none of the 142 passengers and 7 crew were injured..."


Photo:
https://twitter.com/AirportWebcams

[jan_olieslagers]

Drastic measures are needed at Jet Airways, India's biggest full-service carrier.

Hah! Their own stupid fault! Why did they ever give up their magnificent BRU hub concept? All went SO well, in those days!

<back to normal mode>

[luchtzak]