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sean1982 wrote: 22 Jan 2017, 17:29 Wet leases are always more expensive than operating a service yourself especially at the dry leasing rates of AVRO's nearing their end of of life ..... but back OT I would say ;)
On a one-to-one basis, it is indeed a given operating costs of a single flight will be higher when you lease a new plane over when you self-operate an old one in the similar class.

Most of the AVRO fleet were/are swapped for additional airbus planes, thus eliminating a complete operational structure from their organization as they move to a single (and bigger) platform, which is one of the characteristics of a low cost, like the one which is under discussion in this topic.
It saves airlines like ryanair tons of money on non-direct operating costs through a reduction of sparepart stock, back office, staff training, increased crew efficiency, simplified processes, leaner overhead etc.
A couple of thousand euro a week overspent on an opportunistic lease aren't suddenly going to wipe away what are likely millions in structural cost cuts for airlines who decide they could use a few smaller planes on selected routes too, I am sure, or you'd see such airlines take them on themselves rather than lease them operationally like they do, including also IAG's Aer Lingus, as was reported in another topic.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=42627&p=345426#p345388

As to going back to topic, please do.
I remember you taking offence at my carefully considered wording of 'ryanair stalling at BRU' last summer (when no real growth for BRU was announced by ryanair), so I am very eager to hear how we should call a 16% capacity cut according to you? So far you haven't commented OT at all in fact, you know?
In a world of 'post-truth evidence' and 'alternative facts', one can't be seen to get it wrong, can you?

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Gentlemen,

As from now, every post that's off topic will be deleted by yours truly.

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https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryanair ... ge-policy/
wrote:In an interview with the Irish Independent Michael O’Leary, Ryanair’s CEO said:“We’re struggling at the boarding gate because far too many passengers are turning up with half the contents of their homes now instead of one normal-sized bag and one small bag,” he said, adding that some passengers even turn up with three bags. “If it doesn’t stop, we’re going to have to change that policy.”
1. Untrue: Ryanair passengers don't fly with the half content of their homes. At the contrary: I know no airline where people travel with so little luggage as Ryanair. The reason why Ryanair has an onboard luggage problem, is because of Ryanair's Allways Becoming More Expensive policy: surcharges for hold luggage have become so high that FR-passengers don't want to pay it anymore.

2. Ryanair passengers never carry more then the maximum that Ryanair allows as hand luggage (which is the same, or even less, as with most other airlines). Passengers know that Ryanair applies a zero tolerance for dimensions and/or weight.

3. I wonder if the contracts airports-airlines allow such restriction. Ryanair can dictate the rules at airports where they have most of the traffic (like Charleroi), but airports like Brussels and Amsterdam want that their shops do good business. When the second bag is forbitten, the shops will earn less, thus the airports will earn less. I'm pretty sure that airports have included a luggage allowance in their contract.

The solution for Ryanair is easy: reduce the surcharges for hold luggage and ask more people at the check-in (or at the gate) to hand over their carry-on bagage for hold storage.

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Ryanair’s Luxembourg winter schedule includes 6 destinations:

1 new route to: Barcelona (4 weekly)
3 new winter services to: Lisbon (5 weekly), Madrid (4 weekly), Milan Bergamo (4 weekly)
Extra flights to Porto (6 weekly)
6 routes in total (incl London Stansted)
30 weekly flights

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Boeing767copilot wrote: 25 Jan 2017, 15:02 Ryanair’s Luxembourg winter schedule includes 6 destinations:

1 new route to: Barcelona (4 weekly)
3 new winter services to: Lisbon (5 weekly), Madrid (4 weekly), Milan Bergamo (4 weekly)
Extra flights to Porto (6 weekly)
6 routes in total (incl London Stansted)
30 weekly flights
Wow... Luxembourg sees some major changes now : Easy Jet first, now Ryanair... Luxair will have to face some "true" competition now !

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Ryanair supports a campaign to keep Berlin Tegel airport. To avoid more competition at Schönefeld or rather at the future Berlin Brandenburg International Airport?

http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/nachr ... ?market=de
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Passenger wrote: 25 Jan 2017, 14:55 https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryanair ... ge-policy/
wrote:In an interview with the Irish Independent Michael O’Leary, Ryanair’s CEO said:“We’re struggling at the boarding gate because far too many passengers are turning up with half the contents of their homes now instead of one normal-sized bag and one small bag,” he said, adding that some passengers even turn up with three bags. “If it doesn’t stop, we’re going to have to change that policy.”
1. Untrue: Ryanair passengers don't fly with the half content of their homes. At the contrary: I know no airline where people travel with so little luggage as Ryanair. The reason why Ryanair has an onboard luggage problem, is because of Ryanair's Allways Becoming More Expensive policy: surcharges for hold luggage have become so high that FR-passengers don't want to pay it anymore.

2. Ryanair passengers never carry more then the maximum that Ryanair allows as hand luggage (which is the same, or even less, as with most other airlines). Passengers know that Ryanair applies a zero tolerance for dimensions and/or weight.

3. I wonder if the contracts airports-airlines allow such restriction. Ryanair can dictate the rules at airports where they have most of the traffic (like Charleroi), but airports like Brussels and Amsterdam want that their shops do good business. When the second bag is forbitten, the shops will earn less, thus the airports will earn less. I'm pretty sure that airports have included a luggage allowance in their contract.

The solution for Ryanair is easy: reduce the surcharges for hold luggage and ask more people at the check-in (or at the gate) to hand over their carry-on bagage for hold storage.
Have you flown Ryanair recently?

I see people showing up with crazy amounts of hand luggage and, at worst, being asked to gate check the luggage without charge.

Ryanair is starting an early PR campaign to justify future hand luggage charges.

What they should be doing instead is making passengers respect their presently generous limits. But, to compete with Wizz Air, you have to copy them... :cry:

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Inquirer wrote: 23 Jan 2017, 14:22
sean1982 wrote: 22 Jan 2017, 17:29 Wet leases are always more expensive than operating a service yourself especially at the dry leasing rates of AVRO's nearing their end of of life ..... but back OT I would say ;)
On a one-to-one basis, it is indeed a given operating costs of a single flight will be higher when you lease a new plane over when you self-operate an old one in the similar class.
And all of that would be true if not that LCC's dont NEED to lease in a different type of fleet because they can cover their full operation with their a/c type. Because SN have routes where the airport facilities do not allow Airbus ops or they simply cannot fill one there, they have no other choice. As they also operate long haul aircraft that's a second reason why the single aircraft type doesnt work for them.


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Ryanair is currently in talks with ailing Alitalia about providing feeder flights to its long-haul hubs.

Ryanair launched its Milan Malpensa winter 2017/18 schedule, with new routes to Alicante, Eindhoven, Katowice, Lamezia, Liverpool, Palermo and Valencia. Slowly moving away from Bergamo to better compete with easyJet at Malpensa?
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sn26567 wrote: 26 Jan 2017, 21:19 Ryanair is currently in talks with ailing Alitalia about providing feeder flights to its long-haul hubs.

Ryanair launched its Milan Malpensa winter 2017/18 schedule, with new routes to Alicante, Eindhoven, Katowice, Lamezia, Liverpool, Palermo and Valencia. Slowly moving away from Bergamo to better compete with easyJet at Malpensa?
Not only at Malpensa. Ryanair is doing the same at Schönefeld. Both lines from Brussels of Easyjet are pulled back.

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sn26567 wrote: 25 Jan 2017, 18:13 Ryanair supports a campaign to keep Berlin Tegel airport. To avoid more competition at Schönefeld or rather at the future Berlin Brandenburg International Airport?

http://corporate.ryanair.com/news/nachr ... ?market=de
Lufthansa CEO Carsten Spohr takes an opposite view: he supports the closure of Berlin Tegel airport, as it’s more efficient to operate all flights out of Schönefeld.
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Ryanair ditched its plans for transatlantic flights due to a shortage of aircraft.

Ryanair launched its Barcelona winter schedule, with four new routes to Krakow, Luxembourg, Prague and Venice, two new winter routes to Brussels Charleroi and Naples, and more flights on eight existing routes, which will deliver 7.1 million customers per annum.

Ryanair launched its Madrid winter 2017/18 schedule, with three new routes to Bari, Glasgow and Prague, eight new winter routes to Cagliari, Lamezia, Luxembourg, Naples, Newcastle, Nuremberg, Palermo and Verona.
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sn26567 wrote: 01 Feb 2017, 11:44 Ryanair ditched its plans for transatlantic flights due to a shortage of aircraft.
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sn26567 wrote: 01 Feb 2017, 11:44 Ryanair ditched its plans for transatlantic flights due to a shortage of aircraft.
;-)

Indeed, it should read "because the Excel sheet's bottom line still shows a red number..."

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Stij wrote: 01 Feb 2017, 13:36
sn26567 wrote: 01 Feb 2017, 11:44 Ryanair ditched its plans for transatlantic flights due to a shortage of aircraft.
;-)

Indeed, it should read "because the Excel sheet's bottom line still shows a red number..."

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And what's wrong with that? :) better than starting operations which you know beforehand aren't economically viable. There is a reason why FR is such a money maker ;)

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sean1982 wrote: 01 Feb 2017, 13:48 And what's wrong with that? :) better than starting operations which you know beforehand aren't economically viable. There is a reason why FR is such a money maker ;)
There's absolutely nothing wrong with concluding there's no business case, in fact it's very courageous stopping or pausing a project!

The fact that they blame there's a shortage of aircraft might be as it's not very true... the B738 isn't even suited for these flights...

But what they probably mean is "there's a shortage of aircraft... on the market that are cheap enough for our business plan to work"

;-)

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The “best, most and worst” Ryanair airports 2007-17; 2,800 air services, from over 250 airports including 80+ bases

http://www.anna.aero/2017/02/01/best-mo ... 1-86627518

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Stij wrote: 01 Feb 2017, 14:21
sean1982 wrote: 01 Feb 2017, 13:48 And what's wrong with that? :) better than starting operations which you know beforehand aren't economically viable. There is a reason why FR is such a money maker ;)
There's absolutely nothing wrong with concluding there's no business case, in fact it's very courageous stopping or pausing a project!

The fact that they blame there's a shortage of aircraft might be as it's not very true... the B738 isn't even suited for these flights...

But what they probably mean is "there's a shortage of aircraft... on the market that are cheap enough for our business plan to work"

;-)

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Ryanair, today (1 Feb) launched its Israel winter 2017 schedule, with 19 routes (15 new). Ryanair will operate 7 new Tel Aviv routes to Baden Baden, Gdansk, Krakow, Milan Bergamo, Paphos, Poznan and Wroclaw, and 8 new Eilat Ovda routes to Baden Baden, Berlin, Brussels Charleroi, Frankfurt Hahn, Gdansk, Milan Bergamo, Poznan and Warsaw (15 new routes in total), along with its existing routes to Bratislava, Budapest, Krakow and Kaunas

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/ryanair ... 19-routes/

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Ryanair CFO Neil Sorahan says first Boeing 737 Max may arrive slightly earlier than expected: August/September 2019.
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