The Trump administration and aviation

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The US policies towards the aviation industry re likely to change under the new Trump administration.

What is likely to happen can already be predicted by a vote yesterday in the House of Representatives.

A taste of a Trump government: Boeing and Airbus sales to Iran stopped by Republicans

A taste of a Trump government: Boeing and Airbus sales to Iran stopped by Republicans
Iran Air business plan included 200 new aircraft to be bought by Boeing and Airbus. Boeing is an American company while Airbus is French, but it is still affected since 10 percent of its planes’ parts are made in the US.

In September Airbus announced that the U.S. government approved its first sale of 17 planes to Iran after last year’s nuclear agreement eased a decades-long economic embargo. Airbus received a license from the U.S. Treasury Department’s Office of Foreign Assets Control, Airbus spokesman Mary Anne Greczyn said.

“In a country of nearly 80 million people, it is accepted by the industry that there is a market need for some 400 to 500 new commercial planes to replace Iran’s existing, ageing fleet and meet growing travel demand,” she told USA TODAY at that time. “Airbus has been working with the relevant authorities for some time to ensure all activities are undertaken in full compliance with applicable laws and regulations.”

On Thursday a 243-174 vote bill passed the US House prohibiting the US Treasury Department from licensing the manufacturers and US banks that would finance the commercial aircraft sales to Iran Air. All of the “No” votes were cast by Democrats, but eight Democrats did vote “Aye” with an undivided Republican Party, which has a majority in the House of Representatives.

The bill is expected to face stronger opposition in the US Senate, and President Barack Obama has threatened to veto it even if it passed there. Under an incoming President-elect Donald Trump, however, the bill has a better chance of becoming law.

Source: eTN

[jan_olieslagers]

Airbus is French

oh yes
of course

I suppose Airbus will then supply them from its China facilities, as do all French companies?

¡¡¡stupidos gringos!!!

[Bralo20]

Technically Airbus is since a couple of years a Dutch company with manufacturing in many countries around the world and assembling or completion in 4 countries (France, Germany, USA & China). It used to be a French company but it isn't anymore. (well technically it was a European company with HQ in France)

The issue is that all Airbus planes are using US-made (or designed) components and unfortunately this enables the US to block any deal regardless if they are assembled in France, Germany, the US or China. If it contains US technology = nightmare

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TRUMP FAVOURS PRIVATISING AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL

Rep. Bill Shuster, head of the House transportation committee, says President-elect Donald Trump likes the idea of spinning off air traffic control operations from the government and placing them under the control of a private, non-profit corporation chartered by Congress.

Since the election, Shuster has met with Shirley Ybarra, a former Virginia transportation secretary who is working with the Trump transition team on transportation matters.

Shuster and most of the airline industry have been pressing for air traffic control privatization. They say the Federal Aviation Administration is moving too slowly to adopt new technology and that airlines haven't seen the benefits they expected from the agency's air traffic control modernization program, which has been in the works for more than a decade.

Earlier this year, Shuster included a plan to privatize air traffic control in a bill to extend the FAA's operating authority. The bill was approved by the transportation committee, but Shuster was unable to get it to the House floor after several influential lawmakers, including the Ways and Means Committee chairman and the House and Senate Appropriations Committee chairmen, raised objections. Democrats, some segments of the aviation industry and some FAA unions also oppose the plan, although the National Air Traffic Controllers Association endorsed the bill.

Full article from Associated Press: http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2016/A-Hou ... 9cbfee528a

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U.S. grants Airbus a license to sell 106 planes to Iran. Just in time before the inauguration of the Trump administration? Trump has said he would dismantle the 2015 international nuclear deal with Iran, which includes a measure allowing U.S. and European companies to sell Iran civilian aircraft.

http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN13H1W0?il=0

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The industry lobby Airlines for America (A4A) praises the nomination of Elaine Chao for the Department of transportation (DOT), and urges US ATC modernization.

Chao previously served a US Labor Secretary for the entirety of the George W. Bush presidency, and earlier served as Deputy Secretary of DOT in the George H.W. Bush administration.

Chao’s nomination, which was announced Nov. 30 by President-elect Donald Trump, will require US Senate confirmation.

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US airline labour groups look to Trump to overturn Norwegian Air International decision

Labour representatives of US airline workers reacted harshly to the US government’s approval of Norwegian Air International’s (NAI) foreign carrier permit, and indicated they will press US President-elect Donald Trump to reverse the decision when he takes office Jan. 20, 2017.

Given the protectionist stance of trump, I'm curious to see what he will respond. If he does respond at all...

If Trump, a Republican, were to attempt to reverse the current DOT’s decision, he would likely find allies in Congressional Democrats. In a bipartisan rebuke of DOT, Reps. Rick Larsen (D-Washington), Frank LoBiondo (R-New Jersey) and Peter DeFazio (D-Oregon) said in a joint statement that granting NAI a foreign carrier permit “is a slap in the face to American workers” and is in “direct contravention” of labour provisions in the US-EU Open Skies agreement.

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Boeing shares fall slightly today after President-elect Trump says that the order for new Boeing Air Force One (two 747-8i aircraft) should be cancelled...

https://www.aviation24.be/manufacturers/bo ... ect-trump/

[Passenger]

Boeing shares fall slightly today after President-elect Trump says that the order for new Boeing Air Force One (two 747-8i aircraft) should be cancelled...

... should be cancelled unless Boeing makes them cheaper because the price tag is becoming too expensive, Trump said. "We want Boeing to make money, but not like this" - Trump said.

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Boeing Chairman, President and CEO Dennis Muilenburg spoke by phone yesterday with Trump about Air Force One. I guess some misunderstandings have been ironed out...



And then the funny reaction of Antonov in Ukraine on Twitter:

@realDonaldTrump May be it is better to consider #Antonov aircraft as Air Force One?

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And then the funny reaction of Antonov in Ukraine on Twitter:

@realDonaldTrump May be it is better to consider #Antonov aircraft as Air Force One?

And also the jokes from Airbus:

"Mr Trump? I've got a John Leahy on the phone from Toulouse. He says he can get you a yuge, yuge deal on a new plane"

[jan_olieslagers]

Antonov is best choice. Carrying big lumps of dumb cargo is what it was designed for.

[Passenger]

Antonov is best choice. Carrying big lumps of dumb cargo is what it was designed for.

I don't think that the recount(s) of the votes will indeed lead to a victory for Clinton.

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A possible explanation of Trump's tweet: Boeing's political action committee gave $167,000 to Hillary Clinton and $28,000 to Donald Trump in 2015-16 cycle...

[sean1982]

A possible explanation of Trump's tweet: Boeing's political action committee gave $167,000 to Hillary Clinton and $28,000 to Donald Trump in 2015-16 cycle...

Also on the day of the tweet, the Chicago tribune published an interview with Boeing where some comments were made about Donald Duck. Like a real dictator, he cant stand criticism

[Passenger]

It seems that some very intelligent people have a problem to accept the democratic result from a democratic election. Even after a month, they can't accept the mathematic fact that Trump has won the most electors, making him the next president as from 20th Jan 2017. May I suggest them to think about this oneliner from Mark Eyskens, Belgian politician, after he had lost an election as prime minister: "De kiezer heeft altijd gelijk, ook als hij ongelijk heeft".

Regarding Air Force One: Trump is a Boeing lover. He owns a 757-200. All Trump did on Tuesday, was saying that the price tag for the 2 Air Force One 747-8's becomes too expensive for the American taxpayers: 4 billion USD. That's a whopping 3,7 billion EUR for 2 x 747-8. And Trump explained it: “I think Boeing is doing a little bit of a number... We want Boeing to make a lot of money but not that much money.”

http://www.foxbusiness.com/markets/2016 ... icism.html

Boeing Chairman and CEO Dennis Muilenburg called President-elect Donald Trump on Tuesday after Trump targeted the company over the cost of building the next Air Force One. “Muilenburg congratulated Mr. Trump on his election win and committed to working with the new administration to control costs as they establish requirements for the new Air Force One to keep the program as affordable as possible and deliver the best value to American taxpayers,” Boeing said in a statement.

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Except that, as usual, Trump (who won the electoral college vote, but lost the popular vote by 2.5 million votes) has some problems with the facts! The cost of the two 747-8s in the budget of the USAF is 2.8 billion dollars, not >4 billion. And his tweet was "cancel the order", not "re-negotiate the price".

[sean1982]

Except that, as usual, Trump (who won the electoral college vote, but lost the popular vote by 2.5 million votes) has some problems with the facts! The cost of the two 747-8s in the budget of the USAF is 2.8 billion dollars, not >4 billion. And his tweet was "cancel the order", not "re-negotiate the price".

Facts aren't indeed his strong point (havent found any yet tbh) but he needs a reason to throw his toys out of the pram (yet again)

[Passenger]

Yep. Like that football manager who has lost a soccer match: 0-1. It's totally unfair, he said: we had 10 corners, and they not one. And we had 20 goal attempts, and they just 1".

Rules for presidency were known before the game started: the most electors wins. Trump went on campaign in all U.S. states - Clinton in just a few. Result: Trump won electors in all US States - Clinton in just a few.

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Air Force One

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Air Force One is not an ordinary 747. It is a VIP version that has a lot of safety features. No surprise that the cost can be high, much higher than Trump's 757.