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Yuqu12 wrote: 12 Feb 2017, 09:19 I guess you're corrrect Stij, but LH will be backing up EW more than enough so that EW doesn't become even more loss making. LH itself has the profits to do so.
The comment is just in my opinion but if in the same group EW a partner does not work while the other performs, what will the parent company think ? Is it not what we have to see at the end of december 17 or 18 ?

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Stij wrote: 12 Feb 2017, 07:40 Correct, but normally such take-overs happen by very profitable large airlines that have proven that their concept works. Here it's different: Eurowings in still loss making (if I'm not mistaken). Is it proven that their concept works? not to me!
Well besides that such takeovers or mergers certainly do not always happen by very large and/or profitable airlines, in this case that's not even relevant as it's not EW taking over SN, it's LHG who puts it under the EW bannner (with for now nothing more than that - especially as SN remains a seperate entity). If EW would stand alone I might agree, but EW is not bearing the weight of the take-over and they are backed by the size, capital and knowledge of the whole LH Group (which now for a matter of fact also includes SN, which might be the smallest but therefore not the least noisy).

Is it proven that the EW concept is working? Not in a very convincing way yet, but it is gaining some ground and don't forget that the EW concept is in essence very similar to that of SN excluding the most premium and network oriented elements of SN. They are definitely not miles away from each other.
However it is of course very clear that a proper integration cannot take place with EW and SN being as they currently are. That's why 2017 is mainly a year of analysis for BOTH SN ánd EW: what is working, what is not working, how can both airlines operate under the same Eurowings Group, etc. That will eventually mean changes for both SN and EW (as even Carsten Spohr had made clear: also EW has to adapt itself and learn from the successful hybrid model of SN).

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The long-haul pricing at Eurowings looks very strange to me. I booked DUS-MIA 2-14 march, 325 euro with Swiss. Eurowings out of CGN was more expensive. Why would people choose to fly them if they are more expensive? Plus, I think you have to pay for everything on board ( luggage, entertainment, ... )
Maybe becuase of the non-stop flight?

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Swiss sigh of relief as Eurowings drops Geneva base plans

Eurowings Chief Officer Karl Ulrich Garnadt has confirmed the Lufthansa Group budget carrier has no immediate plans to establish a hub at Geneva Cointrin Airport.

Garnadt's comments to Swiss aviation portal aeroTELEGRAPH in an interview earlier this month come at a time when many in the French part of Switzerland have expressed concern over the LCC's possible arrival in Geneva.

It is recalled that in August last year, Lufthansa Group warned Swiss that unless it was able to revamp its Geneva-based regional European operations, then the airport could be turned over to Eurowings. At the time, Swiss media reports indicated Eurowings had been tasked with drawing up a business plan in the event the move was put in motion.

While those plans may be shelved, Swiss's "Geneva Reloaded" turn-around plan is still in force. The two-year plan, which runs until 2018, is aimed at improving the profitability of the carrier's Geneva hub operations.

"The development plan we have presented is based on a new fleet of Bombardier C-Series being deployed [to Geneva] as of Spring," the Head of Swiss's Western Switzerland operations, Lorenzo Stoll, told Radio Romande this month. "We intend to decrease the number of destinations we serve so as to increase frequencies [to remaining destinations] a bit."

Stoll added that he was confident the airline could pull off turning Geneva into a profitable hub by 2018.

According to the ch-aviation route database, Swiss's European operations ex-Geneva extend to Ajaccio, Athens Int'l, Barcelona El Prat, Biarritz, Calvi, Catania, Dublin Int'l, Edinburgh, Florence Peretola, Gothenburg Landvetter, Heraklion, Kerkyra, Lisbon, London City, London Gatwick, London Heathrow, Madrid Barajas, Malaga, Moscow Domodedovo, Munich, Nice, Olbia, Oslo Gardermoen, Palma Son Sant Joan, Porto, Prague, Rome Fiumicino, St. Petersburg, Stockholm Arlanda, Thessaloniki, Valencia Manises, and Zakinthos.

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Eurowings (Germany) is considering opening its first base in Croatia at Rijeka Airport. An additional sixty rotations are planned to be operated by Eurowings to Rijeka in 2017.
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In the Lufthansa Group 2016 results: "Eurowings reported an Adjusted EBIT of EUR -91 million. More than half of the shortcomings can be attributed to start-up costs and other non-recurring expenditures."

Despite the positive result of EUR +15 million at SN? Still a long way to go, Mr Spohr! Let SN inegrate EW rather than the opposite!
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My opinion is also that EW gets integrated into SN if the numbers remain as what they are now. But on the other hand. Why would "Brussels Airlines" (thus the integrated EW) fly from Düsseldorf to London? The name isn't very logical then...

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sn26567 wrote: 17 Mar 2017, 15:06 In the Lufthansa Group 2016 results: "Eurowings reported an Adjusted EBIT of EUR -91 million. More than half of the shortcomings can be attributed to start-up costs and other non-recurring expenditures."

Despite the positive result of EUR +15 million at SN? Still a long way to go, Mr Spohr! Let SN inegrate EW rather than the opposite!
Yuqu12 wrote: 17 Mar 2017, 15:40 My opinion is also that EW gets integrated into SN if the numbers remain as what they are now. But on the other hand. Why would "Brussels Airlines" (thus the integrated EW) fly from Düsseldorf to London? The name isn't very logical then...
However, the german mind has a reputation to be... (how to say this in a politically correct way?) ...slightly less flexible than the belgian one.

But it's obvious that the idea of the full integration (even limited to the short-haul part) of SN into EW should at least be revisited.

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Eurowings to enter the Macedonian market with launch of services between Munich and Skopje on 31 October 2017 with A320.

Eurowings plans to offer A330 service from Cologne / Bonn to Cape Town on 29 October 2017.

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Eurowings Europe (Austria) will add two A319s over summer 2017, with one based in Salzburg and one in Vienna.
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Lufthansa Technik expects to complete the cabin redesign of 33 Eurowings aircraft, A319s and A320s, by end of April 2017.
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It's only about the 33 A320 family aircraft coming from Air Berlin that are converted to Eurowings standards. That includes increase of the seat pitch (!), new safety belts, Eurowings design elements.

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/eurowin ... eurowings/
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Eurowings eyes more A330s as longhaul LCC war intensifies

Eurowings is looking for additional A330 widebody aircraft to bolster its current fleet of seven, the Chief Executive Officer of Lufthansa Group, Carsten Spohr, has said.

Speaking to Bloomberg, Spohr said the added capacity would allow the longhaul budget carrier to better compete with the likes of Norwegian and IAG International Airlines Group which recently unveiled ist own longhaul LCC, LEVEL.

Eurowings' widebody fleet currently consists of six A330-200s and one B767-300(ER) leased from TUI fly (Germany). They are used on flights from Eurowings' Cologne/Bonn hub to leisure destinations in North America, the Caribbean, East and Southern Africa, the Middle East, the Indian Ocean, and the Far East.

Insofar as potential future hubs, Eurowings considers that Berlin Tegel, Hamburg Helmut Schmidt and Dusseldorf would make “interesting” expansions, Spohr added.

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Eurowings continues to expand its operations from Croatia in 2018 after boosting services to the country by 55% in summer 2017.
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A new boss takes the helm of Eurowings today. Will Thorsten Dirks show more consideration for Brussels Airlines than Karl Ulrich Garnadt?

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/lufthan ... rks-today/
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sn26567 wrote: 02 May 2017, 16:34 A new boss takes the helm of Eurowings today. Will Thorsten Dirks show more consideration for Brussels Airlines than Karl Ulrich Garnadt?

https://www.aviation24.be/airlines/lufthan ... rks-today/

As long as Carsten Spohr remains Chairman/CEO of the LH Group I doubt much will change.

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Eurowings (Germany) will start A320 service from Funchal to both Dusseldorf and Cologne/Bonn at end of October 2017.
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Eurowings will start new service from Cologne to Enfidha on 07 June 2017, operated by Germanwings.
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Eurowings Europe (Austria) to start new service from Salzburg to London Heathrow on 01 November and to Bremen on 23 December 2017.

Eurowings (Germany) to start new service from Cologne to Tunis on 04 November, to Innsbruck on 07 December and to Nice on 22 December 2017, with A319/A320 provided by Air Berlin (Germany).
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Eurowings (Germany) to introduce new A319/A320 service from Dusseldorf to Sarajevo on 02 November 2017.
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