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New tests at the infamous BER airport reveal systemic deficiencies, previously unknown, making an opening before 2021 unlikely.

http://amp.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/neuer ... 20284.html
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quixoticguide wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 00:13 New tests at the infamous BER airport reveal systemic deficiencies, previously unknown, making an opening before 2021 unlikely.

http://amp.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/neuer ... 20284.html
Tear it down! What a waste of money, and time!

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The solution is simple: keep Tegel, expand Schönefeld, and destroy BER.
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sn26567 wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 09:27 The solution is simple: keep Tegel, expand Schönefeld, and destroy BER.
According to Der Tagesspiegel a demolition is not an option, it's not the infrastructure but the facilities. Apparently Vienna Airport had the same issue, they stopped the construction works for one year to re-work things and continued after one year. http://www.tagesspiegel.de/berlin/nach- ... 25742.html

https://www.aviation24.be/airports/berli ... fore-2021/

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luchtzak wrote: 24 Nov 2017, 10:51 According to Der Tagesspiegel a demolition is not an option, it's not the infrastructure but the facilities.
The easiest and maybe even the cheapest and fastest option in the long term may be to completely gut the entire new airport to the bare bones and restart construction from that point. But it seams that none of the parties is willing to make that decision and thus the saga continues...

The issues with the fire protection are known for years now and yet the same problem keeps coming up with each new inspection.

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That's 10 years delay !!!
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Berlin Brandenburg airport needs up to €1 billion in extra funds before it can open, in what would be another setback for the project which is expected to open in October 2020.
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sn26567 wrote: 08 Jan 2018, 22:10 Berlin Brandenburg airport needs up to €1 billion in extra funds before it can open, in what would be another setback for the project which is expected to open in October 2020.
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Berlin Brandenburg Airport needs €750 million to be able to open in 2020, according to its new business plan.

Enough to build a whole new airport!
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There is already 1 gate open since many years at Brandenburg! :lol: ;)

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When comparing the BER project with IGA, I tell myself they should ask the Turks to complete the job.
Incompetence at its highest level.
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Data from wikipedia :
IGA : May 2013: tender awarded
May 2015: construction commencement
December 2018: Commercial Operations commence
"As of February 2018, around 80% of the construction of the airport is completed."

BER: "After almost 15 years of planning construction began in 2006. Originally planned to open in October 2011, the airport has encountered a series of delays and cost overruns. [...] A new TÜV report published in November 2017 suggested that the opening could be delayed until 2021."

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At the CAPA summit, Flughafen Berlin Brandenburg GmbH CEO Dr Engelbert Luetke Daldrup on the Berlin Brandenburg Airport project which “has not always been glorious” however "we have a secure and reliable timetable, which will allow guaranteeing the opening in October 2020".

Really?
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Berlin Brandenburg Airport will go ahead and open as planned in October 2020, despite the coronavirus crisis.
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sn26567 wrote: 29 Apr 2020, 23:05 Berlin Brandenburg Airport will go ahead and open as planned in October 2020, despite the coronavirus crisis.
And Tegel - TXL, to close on 1 June and will probably never reopen. Went only twice for a VIE - TXL and TXL - BRU, the good old time. I liked TXL.
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TLspotting wrote: 03 May 2020, 17:12
sn26567 wrote: 29 Apr 2020, 23:05 Berlin Brandenburg Airport will go ahead and open as planned in October 2020, despite the coronavirus crisis.
And Tegel - TXL, to close on 1 June and will probably never reopen. Went only twice for a VIE - TXL and TXL - BRU, the good old time. I liked TXL.
I liked Tempelhof (THF) even better, with SN (both Sabena and SN Brussels) the only airlines allowed to park under the roof!
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TLspotting wrote: 03 May 2020, 17:12 ...
And Tegel - TXL, to close on 1 June and will probably never reopen. Went only twice for a VIE - TXL and TXL - BRU, the good old time. I liked TXL.
I went only once to TXL, a one-hour transit due to LH pricing "logic".

A BRU-FRA-SIN came out at 1569€, BRU-TXL-FRA-SIN was ... 691€.
This was my second trip to Indonesia in 2 weeks so, sorry Greta, I cared for my budget and took the stopover.

The departure area, the only part I saw of the airport, was rather nice indeed. Kind of a flashback to the old BRU days, remember the "Fingers" and the satellite with individual boarding areas ?
TXL DEC2016.JPG


The boarding bridges are also somewhat ... specific. ;)
TXL PBB DEC2016.JPG

Well, sign of the times. Soon a 10-year old "new" terminal at BER.

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sn26567 wrote: 03 May 2020, 18:41 I liked Tempelhof (THF) even better, with SN (both Sabena and SN Brussels) the only airlines allowed to park under the roof!
Good memories, flew once in C (on miles) and was the first to disembark under the roof... I guess the closest I'll ever have been to feeling like flying in a private jet...

When you pass by the new terminal, please note that a lot of Belgian Blue Limestone (Arduin / Pierre Bleue) has been used on the floors and in the lavatories...

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Berlin Brandenburg Airport needs more than €300 million if it is to survive to the opening on 31 October 2020. OMG!
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Berlin Brandenburg, BER, is to officially open on 31 October 2020 !

Press conference in German :
And BER uses Windows Embedded (based on XP)
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