Bin-Laden family sept. 2001 flight

JDarby · Post by **JDarby** » 23 Jul 2004, 04:49

According to Kuwait's al-Qabas newspaper (this is a concise translation):
U.S Senator Lautenberg shed more light on the flight that carried members of the wealthy Bin-Laden family from
the U.S on 29 Sept. 2001.
He said the flight carried 23 passengers and 3 bodyguards. It was a Boeing 727 Reg. # N521DB
belonging to DB Air operated by Ryan International Airlines and the flight path was:
Los Angeles-Orlando-Washington/ Dulles-Boston-Gander-Paris-Geneva-Jeddah

Here is a link to the aircraft photo:
http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=122752

Here is the link (in Arabic) to the article:
http://www.alqabas.com.kw/news_details. ... 2004-07-23

Concorde777steward · Post by **Concorde777steward** » 23 Jul 2004, 07:35

Hmm, only 23 passengers ?? I thought it was more than that.

Correct me if i'm wrong.

By the way, US said that (Al-Qaeda/Osama) also planned to hijack more than 10 flights in southeast asia in 2001, right ? Which flights were on their list (u think).

I'm personally think that UA0862 (SIN-HKG), UA0882 (SIN-NRT), NW0012 (SIN-NRT),
NW0028 (BKK-NRT) & UA0838 (BKK-NRT) were among the flights they wanted to hijack as all these flights depart around 6am to 7.30am.

Sorry if this question makes u uncomfortable.

Thanks.

Captain · Post by **Captain** » 23 Jul 2004, 09:49

This story is shocking. I watched the film Fahrenheit 9/11 and this revelation is brought to the public.

I can understand that most members of the family were probably not even aware of what their rogue member Ossama was going to do, but as Michael Moore highlighted, it's a usual practice to interogate the family in the event of a crime to find out more info rather than just flying them out of the country. George Bush had and still has strong links with the Bin Laden family and he even worked with a member of the family about 15 years ago whilst in the oil industry in Texas.

Shocking.

Captain.

chunk · Post by **chunk** » 23 Jul 2004, 12:40

Actually it was quite widely known not long after 9/11 that the US government got the Bin Ladens out of there quick. It was quickly brushed aside by the media then however - right wing bs. I saw the movie last week and it was quite revealing though a little ott towards the end - going for the easy target....I did like what he did witht he 9/11 footage though...quite eerie. If people ignored their preconceived ideas about moore and watched the movie for what it is - dubya would be in deep doodoo. Unfortunately that ain't gonna happen.....

Flying-Belgian · Post by **Flying-Belgian** » 23 Jul 2004, 15:48

About that Saudi-US "fleeing flights" issue, for those who have seen "Farenheit 9/11" M.Moore shows the pax list + carrier list. All flights were SV operated.

Enjoy the film as much as I did !!!

FB.

JDarby · Post by **JDarby** » 23 Jul 2004, 17:17

Hmm, only 23 passengers ?? I thought it was more than that.

Yes, they were 13 family members, 10 house hold staff & 3 bodyguards. Total of 26

Zorba · Post by **Zorba** » 23 Jul 2004, 19:24

Fahrenheit 9/11 is the best "movie" I've seen. I knew that guy was corrupt, but now 8O Amazing

Hope Kerry wins .. realy

nwa757 · Post by **nwa757** » 23 Jul 2004, 20:07

Captain, Flying-Belgian, and Airbus_fan: I hope that you realize Farenheit 9/11 is FICTION. The things that were said in that movie are pure left wing b.s. The fact is, Michael Moore doesn't know exactly what happened on September 11th, he made these things up. Please I hope you listen to this and realize what actually happened, and not listen to Michael Moore's liberal conspiracy theories.

Regards,
Trevor

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 23 Jul 2004, 20:27

nwa757 wrote:Captain, Flying-Belgian, and Airbus_fan: I hope that you realize Farenheit 9/11 is FICTION. The things that were said in that movie are pure left wing b.s. The fact is, Michael Moore doesn't know exactly what happened on September 11th, he made these things up. Please I hope you listen to this and realize what actually happened, and not listen to Michael Moore's liberal conspiracy theories.

Hey guys let's not start talking about politics in here !!!!!

Anyway, I saw the movie and I didn't really heard a lot of new stories. Most of the things were allready known since a long time ago here in Europe.

Greetz
Chris
8)

JDarby · Post by **JDarby** » 23 Jul 2004, 20:31

For those who talk about Fahrenhite 9/11, M. Moore mixed facts and fiction
and he tried to portray it as a "Documentary" for his own political ends.
He himself confessed to that. Anyways, this is an aviation not a movie
or a political forum.

nwa757 · Post by **nwa757** » 23 Jul 2004, 20:35

Avro wrote:Hey guys let's not start talking about politics in here !!!!!

Sorry, I didn't mean to turn this into a political discussion. I just wanted to make that point because I don't think Captain, Flying-Belgian, and Airbus_fan realized that that movie was fiction.

Anyways, I am sorry and I hope no one was offended.

Avro · Post by **Avro** » 23 Jul 2004, 20:44

nwa757 wrote: Sorry, I didn't mean to turn this into a political discussion. I just wanted to make that point because I don't think Captain, Flying-Belgian, and Airbus_fan realized that that movie was fiction.

Anyways, I am sorry and I hope no one was offended.

Everybody has his/her owns ideas and we should respect that.

Don't worry you didn't offend me, even if I don't agree with your comment.

Ciao
Chris

A318 · Post by **A318** » 23 Jul 2004, 22:14

Farenheit 9/11 is fiction based on this left politic enthusiast so please leave this out of the discussion here or I get frustrated again

The Bin Laden family didn't knew about their weird brother plans, in fact the Bin Laden Group and the Bin Laden family was respected in the US.

Greetz,

Erwin

Sabena_690 · Post by **Sabena_690** » 23 Jul 2004, 23:22

@Erwin: don't generalize Michael Liar Moore with the left.

@all: this thread is turning political, so I'll close it.

Frederic