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FLYAIR10
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Re: JetairFly in 2015

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In future a route to NAP could be good.
Is there a pilot here who could tell what the maximum range is of an E-190 out of Antwerp with an economical max pax load and also considering the 1500m runway lenght? Would ANR-NAP , ANR-LED ,ANR-TUN , ANR-ATH,... be feasible? and what about max Payload/range of a 737-600 out of ANR?
Grtz...

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Stij wrote:... the passenger lines are 600 (to Lier) to 700 (to Mechelen) meters from the airport and only local trains stop there...
and also these local station are connected every 15min by bus to the airport! but probably it's faster to walk instead of taking the bus (when it's not raining ;-) ).

Pretty well connected I would say!

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Yesterday I booked a returntrip to Berlin : Sat/Wed in May 2015 and paid 149,96 euro for two passengers : Outbound € 29.99 pp - Inbound € 29.99 pp - "Gold" cancellation insurance € 15,00 - Admin. cost € 15.00 - inclusive of 15kg hold luggage and 6 kg cabin luggage per person. Schedules are very convenient ( I live 10 mins from the Airport with a bus connection every 15 min ) ANR/SXF 12:25/13:55 - SXF/ANR 13:55/15:20 !
Way to go, ANR & JAF !

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Re: JetairFly in 2015

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FLYAIR10 wrote:
In future a route to NAP could be good.
Is there a pilot here who could tell what the maximum range is of an E-190 out of Antwerp with an economical max pax load and also considering the 1500m runway lenght? Would ANR-NAP , ANR-LED ,ANR-TUN , ANR-ATH,... be feasible? and what about max Payload/range of a 737-600 out of ANR?
Grtz...
It is feasible if u consider that Club Med organized and will in S15 flights from Orly and Lyon to Comiso (in the deep south of Sicily,very close Also to Tunis) operated by Hop! regional, and its bigger airplan is Emb 190.

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MrG4 wrote:It is feasible if u consider that Club Med organized and will in S15 flights from Orly and Lyon to Comiso (in the deep south of Sicily,very close Also to Tunis) operated by Hop! regional, and its bigger airplan is Emb 190.
the question is related to the short runway in ANR. As the airports you mention have quite long runways, performance due to rwy length is probably not a factor, as in Antwerp it might as well will be...

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Take-off run takes 1267m, runway lenght is 1510m. So if this fals within limits according to IATA regulations it is no problem to take-off at MTOW.

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The thing we know for a fact is that ANR-AGP is the longest planned flight at 1095 miles. So that's certainly something that's (commercially) feasible. So if 1095 miles is (close to) the maximum distance, both TUN and NAP would be possible as they are slightly closer. LED is a bit and ATH a lot farther away. See this map for details: http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=ANR-LED,+A ... 95mi%40ANR

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Thanks guys for the input. That is clarifying.
One more question. If I remember well many years ago,TEA made an application to launch flights from ANR to TLV. I suppose it would have been with 737 equipment. But it never materialized.Not sure why it was cancelled.I guess it was more for political reasons ,SN fearing competition. But would it be possible to operate ANR-TLV or ANR-ATH, ANR-LED nonstop with any 737 version ?(Non-stop,with payload restriction on the outgoing leg only then)
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Interesting question...
ANR-TLV would be a very profitable connection I think.
But as I understand the runway at ANR is too short for a 737 (fully loaded) and TLV is too far for the range of a (standard) E190. There are no real options to lengthen the runway in ANR (city on one side and a 'protected monument', the old fort on the other side).
If it would be possible with a let's say half loaded 737, they would have to double the ticketprices (simplified and hypothtical explanation offcourse). But then passengers would probably prefer a cheaper connection via BRU or CRL.
But do correct me if I'm wrong or if someone can provide fact as it would be interesting.

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a long time ago, TEA had the intention to fly ANR LUX TLV ANR,
but they never did, due to political and SN reasons

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Heard a rumour that JAF is up to something big having to do with africa? Anyone knows more?

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Sai wrote:Interesting question...
ANR-TLV would be a very profitable connection I think.
TLV is too far for the range of a (standard) E190.
Hello

E190STD

Maximum range with full pax, LRC and typical mission reserves: 1 850nm
ANR-TLV: 1 766nm

Greetings,
All my posted timings are local !

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tangolima wrote:
Sai wrote:Interesting question...
ANR-TLV would be a very profitable connection I think.
TLV is too far for the range of a (standard) E190.
Hello

E190STD

Maximum range with full pax, LRC and typical mission reserves: 1 850nm
ANR-TLV: 1 766nm

Greetings,
But how does that work on ANR's short runway? I assume there will at least be payload restrictions?

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RoMax wrote:
tangolima wrote:
Sai wrote:Interesting question...
ANR-TLV would be a very profitable connection I think.
TLV is too far for the range of a (standard) E190.
Hello

E190STD

Maximum range with full pax, LRC and typical mission reserves: 1 850nm
ANR-TLV: 1 766nm

Greetings,
But how does that work on ANR's short runway? I assume there will at least be payload restrictions?
Hello

Take-off field length, MTOW, , ISA, SL - E5 engines for STD & LR; E5A1 engines for AR version: 5 243ft
RYW length in ANR: 4 954ft

So the 112 seats can't be filled completely out of ANR.

Greetings,
All my posted timings are local !

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Re: JetairFly in 2015

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Jetairfly propose deux nouvelles lignes vers l’Algérie depuis Charleroi.
La liaison hebdomadaire vers Tlemcen débutera le 9 avril 2015 et sera assurée jusqu’au 22 octobre de la même année. Celle à destination de Constantine commencera le 8 avril et sera maintenue chaque semaine jusqu’au 28 octobre 2015.
Jetairfly dessert 23 destinations depuis l’aéroport de Charleroi, avec lequel elle collabore depuis six ans.

http://www.lesoir.be/694098/article/act ... depuis-cha
IF IT AIN'T BOEING, I'M NOT GOING.

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TLV is low yield from ANR. Diamond and many others residing in Antwerp look for cheapest options to fly to TLV. High yield pax fly SN or LX in C class. TLV flight is too long, and costly to make money selling it 59 EUR O.W. specially on limited capacity.. I think that DME is a better deal. Higher yields, and lots of diamond and business links (wait and see situation between RUS and EU) Even IST can do well. Greek Islands in summer Austria and (SIR) Sion in CH or even GVA in winter there used to be a flight to the London area from Sion, very popular as stone's throw away from Zermatt and Verbier. ..

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Re: 3 'new' routes for Antwerp, but is it enough?

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Inquirer wrote:I asked the same question in the other topic already: as far as I know, Tegel is closed to newcomers.
https://www.jetairfly.com/ now shows TXL instead of SXF

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Re: 3 'new' routes for Antwerp, but is it enough?

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eudokia wrote:
Inquirer wrote:I asked the same question in the other topic already: as far as I know, Tegel is closed to newcomers.

https://www.jetairfly.com/ now shows TXL instead of SXF
It's no mistake: Jetairfly managed to negotiate slots at TXL which are more interesting for their customers than SXF (closer to city centre, shorter transfer). The press release will be issued tomorrow.
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According to our colleagues of Flightlevel.be, Jetairfly will operate two B737-300s en two B737-700s for ECAir, the national airline of Congo-Brazzaville. Currently ECAir flies with Privatair aircraft from Switzerland. Jetairfly is hiring crew to be based in Brazzaville.

It is not yet clear where the aircraft will come from: Jetairfly just doesn't have any B737-300s. Nor is it known how long-haul flights will be carried out.

http://www.flightlevel.be/40780/jetairf ... lese-ecair
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sn26567 wrote:According to our colleagues of Flightlevel.be, Jetairfly will operate two B737-300s en two B737-700s for ECAir, the national airline of Congo-Brazzaville. Currently ECAir flies with Privatair aircraft from Switzerland. Jetairfly is hiring crew to be based in Brazzaville.

It is not yet clear where the aircraft will come from: Jetairfly just doesn't have any B737-300s. Nor is it known how long-haul flights will be carried out.

http://www.flightlevel.be/40780/jetairf ... lese-ecair
sean1982 wrote:Heard a rumour that JAF is up to something big having to do with africa? Anyone knows more?
That's what I meant ;) but my source was confidential

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