SIA To Orders B7E7
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SIA To Orders B7E7
Singapore Airlines Limited is in final negotiation with Boeing for the purchase of B7E7. Boeing said that they expect SIA will officially orders the B7E7-3 & B7E7-8 next month.
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Well at least it looks airlines are warming up now for the 7E7.
After the news today that the A380 is going to be much heavier then anounced in the first place, customers will think twice before the place an order for that whale.
Heavier means not so cost efficient as promissed also.
Greetz,
Erwin
After the news today that the A380 is going to be much heavier then anounced in the first place, customers will think twice before the place an order for that whale.
Heavier means not so cost efficient as promissed also.
Greetz,
Erwin
A Whole Different Animal
Maybe, but this DOESN'T mean they will buy the B7E7 either.A318 wrote: After the news today that the A380 is going to be much heavier then anounced in the first place, customers will think twice before the place an order for that whale.
Don't compare the B7E7 with the A380.!!!!!!!
But maybe, still more than its biggest rival the B747Heavier means not so cost efficient as promissed also.
Chris
Just received the message below in my mailbox.
Also Blue Panoramo and First Chioce have selected the 7E7 to renew their fleet.
SEATTLE, July 7, 2004 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] today confirmed announcements that Blue Panorama of Italy and First Choice Airways of the United Kingdom have selected the 7E7 Dreamliner to replace and expand their existing airplane fleets. These two carriers are the first in Europe to choose the 7E7, the world's newest, most advanced commercial jetliner.
In separate press conferences in Rome and London , the carriers announced plans to acquire a total of 10 7E7s, valued at $1.2 billion at list prices. Blue Panorama will add four 7E7s to its fleet at a value of $500 million and First Choice will receive six 7E7s. Contract negotiations are expected to conclude later this year. Deliveries are scheduled to begin in 2009.
"Today's announcements are ringing endorsements of the 7E7's broad appeal across a spectrum of airlines," said Marlin Dailey, vice president of Sales for Europe , Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "The 7E7 has the versatility and flexibility that allows airlines that offer scheduled or leisure service, or a mix of both, to adapt to their own evolving business models and to the dynamic demands of the market."
Both carriers have selected the 7E7-8 model, with a range of 15,700 kilometers. This is 4,000 kilometers farther than today's similar-sized airplanes, which will allow 7E7 operators to economically connect hundreds of new destinations for world travelers.
Blue Panorama and First Choice are in the process of evaluating their engine options, which include the General Electric GENX (GE Next Generation) and Rolls-Royce's Trent 1000.
As these airlines join the launch team, they will be the first in Europe to benefit from the advanced economics, improved fuel efficiency and reduced noise of the 7E7. They will be the first to offer passengers a new, more comfortable flying experience, in cabins with larger windows, wider seats and wider aisles.
"Blue Panorama and First Choice will have a clear, competitive advantage over carriers operating more conventional aircraft," Dailey said
The Boeing 7E7 Dreamliner is being designed with airlines, passengers, investors and the environment in mind. The technologically advanced airplane will use 20 percent less fuel than today's airplanes of comparable size, provide customers with up to 60 percent more cargo revenue capacity, and present passengers with innovations including a new interior environment with higher humidity.
Boeing launched the 7E7 Dreamliner last April when it announced an order for 50 7E7s from Japanese carrier ANA, followed by an announcement by Air New Zealand for two 7E7s. Boeing has proposal acceptances out to more than two dozen airlines around the world and expects additional orders in the coming months.
Blue Panorama
Blue Panorama, headquartered in Rome , started operations in 1998. This privately-owned, all-Boeing operator currently flies five 737-400s and three 767-300ERs and will take delivery of a fourth 767-300ER in December. This year Blue Panorama expects to carry nearly 900,000 passengers on its charter and scheduled network extending across the Mediterranean , the Middle and Far East , Central America and the Caribbean . Over 70 percent of its long-haul operations are scheduled flights.
First Choice
First Choice Airways, based in the UK and previously known as Air 2000, is part of the Mainstream Holidays division of First Choice Holidays PLC, incorporating some of the largest brands in the UK travel industry. Other companies in the division include tour-operating brands such as First Choice Holidays, Unijet, 2wentys, Eclipse Direct, Falcon and JWT. In April 2004, the company, which focuses on offering its passengers a differentiated product, redefined the standards of long-haul charter flights by becoming the first European carrier to install the Boeing Enhanced 777 Interior in its 767 fleet.
Additional 7E7 Information
The 7E7 is a family of airplanes in the 200- to 300-seat class that will carry passengers on routes between 6,500 to 16,000 kilometers (3,500 and 8,500 nautical miles). The 7E7 will allow airlines to offer passengers more of what they want: affordable, comfortable, non-stop, point-to-point travel to more destinations around the world. In addition to bringing big-jet ranges to mid-size airplanes, the 7E7 will fly at Mach 0.85, as fast as today's fastest commercial airplanes, while using much less fuel. Also, for the first time in commercial jet history, the 7E7 family will offer a standard engine interface for the two types of engines to be offered on the airplane, the General Electric GENX (GE Next Generation) or Rolls Royce's Trent 1000, allowing the 7E7 to be fitted with either manufacturer's engines at any point in time. Production of the Dreamliner will begin in 2006. First flight is expected in 2007, with certification, delivery and entry into service in 2008.
Source: Boeing Newsletter
Best Regards,
Yvo
Also Blue Panoramo and First Chioce have selected the 7E7 to renew their fleet.
SEATTLE, July 7, 2004 -- The Boeing Company [NYSE: BA] today confirmed announcements that Blue Panorama of Italy and First Choice Airways of the United Kingdom have selected the 7E7 Dreamliner to replace and expand their existing airplane fleets. These two carriers are the first in Europe to choose the 7E7, the world's newest, most advanced commercial jetliner.
In separate press conferences in Rome and London , the carriers announced plans to acquire a total of 10 7E7s, valued at $1.2 billion at list prices. Blue Panorama will add four 7E7s to its fleet at a value of $500 million and First Choice will receive six 7E7s. Contract negotiations are expected to conclude later this year. Deliveries are scheduled to begin in 2009.
"Today's announcements are ringing endorsements of the 7E7's broad appeal across a spectrum of airlines," said Marlin Dailey, vice president of Sales for Europe , Boeing Commercial Airplanes. "The 7E7 has the versatility and flexibility that allows airlines that offer scheduled or leisure service, or a mix of both, to adapt to their own evolving business models and to the dynamic demands of the market."
Both carriers have selected the 7E7-8 model, with a range of 15,700 kilometers. This is 4,000 kilometers farther than today's similar-sized airplanes, which will allow 7E7 operators to economically connect hundreds of new destinations for world travelers.
Blue Panorama and First Choice are in the process of evaluating their engine options, which include the General Electric GENX (GE Next Generation) and Rolls-Royce's Trent 1000.
As these airlines join the launch team, they will be the first in Europe to benefit from the advanced economics, improved fuel efficiency and reduced noise of the 7E7. They will be the first to offer passengers a new, more comfortable flying experience, in cabins with larger windows, wider seats and wider aisles.
"Blue Panorama and First Choice will have a clear, competitive advantage over carriers operating more conventional aircraft," Dailey said
The Boeing 7E7 Dreamliner is being designed with airlines, passengers, investors and the environment in mind. The technologically advanced airplane will use 20 percent less fuel than today's airplanes of comparable size, provide customers with up to 60 percent more cargo revenue capacity, and present passengers with innovations including a new interior environment with higher humidity.
Boeing launched the 7E7 Dreamliner last April when it announced an order for 50 7E7s from Japanese carrier ANA, followed by an announcement by Air New Zealand for two 7E7s. Boeing has proposal acceptances out to more than two dozen airlines around the world and expects additional orders in the coming months.
Blue Panorama
Blue Panorama, headquartered in Rome , started operations in 1998. This privately-owned, all-Boeing operator currently flies five 737-400s and three 767-300ERs and will take delivery of a fourth 767-300ER in December. This year Blue Panorama expects to carry nearly 900,000 passengers on its charter and scheduled network extending across the Mediterranean , the Middle and Far East , Central America and the Caribbean . Over 70 percent of its long-haul operations are scheduled flights.
First Choice
First Choice Airways, based in the UK and previously known as Air 2000, is part of the Mainstream Holidays division of First Choice Holidays PLC, incorporating some of the largest brands in the UK travel industry. Other companies in the division include tour-operating brands such as First Choice Holidays, Unijet, 2wentys, Eclipse Direct, Falcon and JWT. In April 2004, the company, which focuses on offering its passengers a differentiated product, redefined the standards of long-haul charter flights by becoming the first European carrier to install the Boeing Enhanced 777 Interior in its 767 fleet.
Additional 7E7 Information
The 7E7 is a family of airplanes in the 200- to 300-seat class that will carry passengers on routes between 6,500 to 16,000 kilometers (3,500 and 8,500 nautical miles). The 7E7 will allow airlines to offer passengers more of what they want: affordable, comfortable, non-stop, point-to-point travel to more destinations around the world. In addition to bringing big-jet ranges to mid-size airplanes, the 7E7 will fly at Mach 0.85, as fast as today's fastest commercial airplanes, while using much less fuel. Also, for the first time in commercial jet history, the 7E7 family will offer a standard engine interface for the two types of engines to be offered on the airplane, the General Electric GENX (GE Next Generation) or Rolls Royce's Trent 1000, allowing the 7E7 to be fitted with either manufacturer's engines at any point in time. Production of the Dreamliner will begin in 2006. First flight is expected in 2007, with certification, delivery and entry into service in 2008.
Source: Boeing Newsletter
Best Regards,
Yvo
Ofcourse you have to compare those 2 since it are planes from 2 different views of the aviation future.Avro wrote: Maybe, but this DOESN'T mean they will buy the B7E7 either.
Don't compare the B7E7 with the A380.!!!!!!!
Chris
Airbus thinks people want to have a hub-hub plane and then carry on with smaller planes, but Boeing thinks people want direct flights. Those 2 different views need two different planes, the A380 and the 7E7 and that's why you have to compare those 2!
Greetz,
Erwin
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Sorry to go off topic, but I wanted to add something I read about the recent 'the A380 is overweight'-article in Der Spiegel.
x apparently, Der Spiegel has used the old A380 weight figures
x the weight of the (heavier) prototype was also used in the calculations
This means that the overweight of the A380 will (currently) be very limited in the end to maybe 2-3 tonns.
About the B7E7: hope to see more orders coming! Airbus is rumoured to come up with a new A330. Isn't it nice how, due to the strong competition, Airbus and Boeing are improving their products all the time?
Frederic
x apparently, Der Spiegel has used the old A380 weight figures
x the weight of the (heavier) prototype was also used in the calculations
This means that the overweight of the A380 will (currently) be very limited in the end to maybe 2-3 tonns.
About the B7E7: hope to see more orders coming! Airbus is rumoured to come up with a new A330. Isn't it nice how, due to the strong competition, Airbus and Boeing are improving their products all the time?
Frederic
Brussels Airlines - Flying Your Way
That would be great if it's true.Sabena_690 wrote:This means that the overweight of the A380 will (currently) be very limited in the end to maybe 2-3 tonns.
Yep that's really fine, thanks to both we (normal passengers) will be able to fly on more modern and reliable planes.About the B7E7: hope to see more orders coming! Airbus is rumoured to come up with a new A330. Isn't it nice how, due to the strong competition, Airbus and Boeing are improving their products all the time?
I wonder how flying will be in 40 years.
Greetz
Chris
Just read that the 7E7 is possible going to be changed a little more due to higher fuel consumption as expected.
The beautiful curved and slim body is somehow asking for more air friction then calculated. It seems that Horizon, which is the 7E7 launch customer, will have a word in the possible changed design.
Looks like both constructors have to do some re-designing here.
Greetz,
Erwin
The beautiful curved and slim body is somehow asking for more air friction then calculated. It seems that Horizon, which is the 7E7 launch customer, will have a word in the possible changed design.
Looks like both constructors have to do some re-designing here.
Greetz,
Erwin
A Whole Different Animal
Thanks for the info Erwin. What I always thaught will probably come true. I never really believed that Boeing would really make a tail like showed on all pictures. I would rather expect a usual shape like the B767 or B777 with high performance wing.A318 wrote:Just read that the 7E7 is possible going to be changed a little more due to higher fuel consumption as expected.
The beautiful curved and slim body is somehow asking for more air friction then calculated. It seems that Horizon, which is the 7E7 launch customer, will have a word in the possible changed design.
Looks like both constructors have to do some re-designing here.
Greetz
Chris
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