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Malaysia declares MH370 an accident

The Malaysian government has officially declared the disappearance of MH370 an accident and has said that there were no survivors.

No trace of the Beijing-bound aircraft has been found since it disappeared on 8 March 2014.

Officials said that the recovery operation is ongoing but that the 239 people onboard are now presumed dead.

The plane's whereabouts are still unknown despite a massive international search in the southern Indian Ocean.

Source: BBC
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MEDIA STATEMENT Released at 4.35p.m. / 1 February 2015

Malaysia Airlines wishes to clarify reports from various quarters on the Declaration of Accident to flight MH370 and the manner in which it was communicated which we understand has caused considerable discontentment among family members of passengers and crew onboard.

The airline had, contacted all next-of-kin in Malaysia and around the world to notify them of the impending announcement on 29 January 2015. Prior to the scheduled announcement by the Department of Civil Aviation Malaysia, all next-of-kin were notified via telephone calls and in certain instances by text messages, when the calls were unanswered. These were done personally by its Family Support Centre, caregivers or representatives from the airline’s regional offices.

Next-of-kin in China were notified via text messages by Malaysia Airlines' Family Communications and Support Centre in Beijing.

Together with the Government of Malaysia and its related agencies, the airline will continue to organise engagement sessions with family members to discuss various matters related to the declaration.
Malaysia Airlines remains committed to provide for the wellbeing of family members of those onboard MH370. Our thoughts and prayers are with them at all times.
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sn26567 wrote:MEDIA STATEMENT Released at 4.35p.m. / 1 February 2015
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Prior to the scheduled announcement by the Department of Civil Aviation Malaysia, all next-of-kin were notified via telephone calls and in certain instances by text messages, when the calls were unanswered
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At least two relatives told the media that this is untrue. Both were at home, and both were not informed in person, but had to hear it from the media.

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ICAO recommends 15min tracking interval for airliners

Less than a year after the disappearance of Malaysia Airlines flight MH370, ICAO has recommended adopting a new aircraft tracking standard for airlines with automated position updates every 15min.

The recommendation made on 3 February at the UN aviation body’s High Level Safety Conference in Montreal could become effective this fall using an “expedited” approval process, says Olumuyiwa Aliu, president of the ICAO Council.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/articl ... rs-408712/

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National Geographic - Air Crash Investigation - documentary 44 minutes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8roFEgLbKE


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(Edit: I seem to have been writing this at the same time as Passenger...)

There is a new episode of Air Crash Investigation on YouTube about the dissapearance of MH370.

Some of the points in the article:
-MH370 was flying to Antartica on purpose
-There is additional/new sattelite data that supports the theory of the B777 flying for hours
-Martin Dolan, the ATSB Chief Commissioner, thinks/hopes/expects that the wreckage will be found before the end of May

I'll be watching the episode and shall edit this info after I watched it. Journalists have the bad habit of pour paraphrasing/quoting...

Article on Het Nieuwsblad: http://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf2015022 ... 43eac9a746

Video on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fU2lX1kcCsA

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As I expected, the words in the article do not support those said in the documentary:
-MH370 was flying to Antartica on purpose
-It flew to the South, in the direction of Antartica
-There is additional/new satellite data that supports the theory of the B777 flying for hours
-This is the original satellite data from Inmarsat
-Martin Dolan, the ATSB Chief Commissioner, thinks/hopes/expects that the wreckage will be found before the end of May
-This wasn't in the documentary.
I can't find a piece wherein Dolan has said this.

Basically it's a documentary where they try to find the most fitting theory by comparing it to former accidents:
-Hijacking by passenger (no suspicious passengers however) (like Ethiopian 961)
-Fire (probably not) (South African 295)
-Cabin pressure problem (Helios 522)
-Flight system failures ("...that just doesn't add up.")
-Deliberate action (by a pilot, not necessarily the 2 flying) (6 former cases) (Silk Air 185)
-Terrorism (FedEx 705)

There is no information on the ongoing search whatsoever.

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This article in The Guardian is such a cold shower...
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/f ... jon-ronson

Many different angles, but still some interesting details:
most importantly: still not 1 clue.
not 1 cell phone connection BEFORE boarding !!! That Ethan guy makes here a point.

If you ask me, the point has been reached that an independent body should step in , with the power to investigate and take action if obstructed. That means the UN.
The investigation should be 100 % open from the beginning. So all the details on the street.
example:
Official Mrs X refused to answer. Her contact data are XYZ. Her respansable is Mr.Y Contact data ... and so on.
Who does not cooperate gets nailed on the www-cross, medieval style. Simple and effective.

Mrs Sarah was right by saying “Bring something unique to the table,” she says. “Then I’d absolutely love to talk to you.” ( and otherwise stay away )
I would extend it to : If you have nothing to add, you are out of the game. Immediately.
Simplified example: if Malaysian Airlines doesn't provide some specific maintenance data NOW, Malaysian airlines becomes grounded NOW.
Too draconic? Tell it to the families what draconic means.

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And the press doesn't ask the right questions:
if they say that they will find the wreckage before May ( 2015 ? ) , I would ask them where that assumption is based upon. Why not before April?

Secondly: I would ask if there would be any consequences if that statement would turn out to be crap.
So, if the wreckage isn't found yet in June, will we see the resignation paper of responsable people who fabricated that statement?

Credibility is on stake , and that can not be restored by silence.
Action should be shown.

Question to MH: " Can you assure that this will not happen again?"
Answer: "Irrelevant, of course this will not happen again"
Question " Euh, so you know what happened? Can you elaborate please?" 8-)

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One year later:

Four vessels owned by Dutch engineering firm Fugro, equipped with sophisticated underwater drones, have searched about 40 percent of the previously unmapped expanse of sea floor that has been designated the highest priority. Fugro is expected to finish surveying the probable crash site by May.

'We cannot keep searching forever', says Australian deputy Prime Minister.

Discussions [with China and Malaysia] are ongoing about the search,” he said. “We remain cautiously optimistic about finding the plane … with over 40% of the priority search area covered so far.

If, however, the plane is not found at the completion of the search … then discussions will be had between Australia, Malaysia, China and potentially others on the next steps” which could be to call off the hunt within weeks.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/m ... 370-search
http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/03/ ... RS20150301
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Maybe news, didn't check older posts:
an experienced B777 pilot comes up with a theory based on his experience as a pilot.
Quite interesting.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/flight-mh370/5 ... -of-penang

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regi wrote:Maybe news, didn't check older posts:
an experienced B777 pilot comes up with a theory based on his experience as a pilot.
Quite interesting.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/flight-mh370/5 ... -of-penang
Wasn't posted yet.
Definitely interesting and refreshing view

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regi wrote:Maybe news, didn't check older posts:
an experienced B777 pilot comes up with a theory based on his experience as a pilot.
Quite interesting.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/flight-mh370/5 ... -of-penang
See also
http://www.flightglobal.com/features/mh370/

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Passenger wrote:
regi wrote:Maybe news, didn't check older posts:
an experienced B777 pilot comes up with a theory based on his experience as a pilot.
Quite interesting.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/flight-mh370/5 ... -of-penang
See also
http://www.flightglobal.com/features/mh370/
That's the first 'report' I read that only uses logic, and no hocus pocus or so.
It seems legit. Hopefully the ATSB'll consider searching a mere 20nm further then where they are for the moment.

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Treeper wrote:...
That's the first 'report' I read that only uses logic, and no hocus pocus or so.
It seems legit. Hopefully the ATSB'll consider searching a mere 20nm further then where they are for the moment.
It is indeed and when I got it from FG, I was struck by the fact that the splashdown location was not so far away from where satellites had "seen" debris such as Australian on March 16th, Chinese on March 18th and French on March 23rd. See below.
MH370 Hardy Track.jpg
The yellow line is Capt Hardy's track on 188°T starting from WPT ANAKO.
The positions reported by the satellites are about 700km further South and less than 300km "off-track", plausible as the debris had been drifting for 8-15 days. (= 1-2 kts)

As member JasonSeattle reported here earlier, Brock McEwen published in January a strong criticism "Time to investigate the Investigators".
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-r3yu ... Q4cTQ/view

but what has apparently not been noted is that this pamphlet made reference to another analysis made by Dr Ulich back in September.
Check this : https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzOIIFN ... Vic0E/edit

This incredibly detailed study gives a splashdown position roughly in the same area as Capt Hardy's, i.e. well South West of where the search has been carried out until now !
MH370 Possible SW Area.jpg
By these apparently separate analyses, both straightforward, logical and very detailed, it looks like highly probable that the location of 9M-MRO wreckage is somewhere around 39°S 86°E.

But it may take some time before they find it.

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Interim report (interim statement), exactly one year after MH370 disappeared:

http://avherald.com/h?article=4710c69b/048&opt=0

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Australia says expanded search area for Flight MH370 may take a year

Government ministers from Australia, China and Malaysia on Thursday said that they would extend the search for missing Malaysia Airlines Flight MH370 by an additional 60,000 sq kilometres if the wreckage is not found in the current search area.

The extended search for the jetliner, which disappeared last year but is believed to have crashed in the Indian Ocean off Australia's west coast, could take up to a year, officials said at a meeting in Kuala Lumpur.

Full story: http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/04/ ... TJ20150416
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Investigators double southern Indian Ocean search area

The search plan has been modified to enable continuous search operations during winter and to ensure that the entire 120,000 square kilometre area is searched as quickly and effectively as possible. The search into the expanded area has already commenced, with search efforts focused in the south to take advantage of the last of the usable weather in that area. Safety of the search crews also remains a priority.

Expert advice is that the highest probability of locating the aircraft is within the 120,000 square kilometre search area. Beyond that, it is not possible to refine the search area to one of greater likelihood.

More than 75 percent of the seafloor in the initial search area has been searched so far.

The Search Strategy Working Group continues to review evidence associated with MH370 which may result in further refinement of the search area.

In the event the aircraft is found and accessible, Australia, Malaysia and the People's Republic of China have agreed to plans for recovery activities including securing all the evidence necessary for the accident investigation.

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Update from Reuters about the search mission:

"...Nearly a year after embarking on a multi-million dollar quest to solve one of aviation's greatest unsolved mysteries, authorities and search teams are being criticised over their approach to finding Flight MH370 in the remote southern Indian Ocean.

Experts involved in past deep water searches say the search to find MH370 could easily miss the plane as Dutch company Fugro NV, the firm at the forefront of the mission, is using inappropriate technology for some terrain and inexperienced personnel for the highly specialized task of hunting man-made objects.

Heightening concerns, Australian authorities said on Wednesday that another search vessel, the Go Phoenix, which is using the world's best deep sea search equipment and crew provided by U.S. firm Phoenix International Holdings Inc, would pull out within weeks. No reason was given for withdrawing the vessel from the quest.

"Fugro is a big company but they don't have any experience in this kind of search and it's really a very specialized job," said Paul-Henry Nargeolet, a former French naval officer who was hired by France's air accident investigation agency BEA to co-ordinate the search and recovery of Air France Flight AF447 in 2009. "This is a big job," Nargeolet told Reuters. "I'm not an Australian taxpayer, but if I was, I would be very mad to see money being spent like that."

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/05/ ... QE20150527

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I am so sad that all these details were predicted from the beginning, by me, but that was based on other postings world wide.
They are dragging their feet. Question: why? My answer : because they know that what they are doing is useles because they know that the disappearance of the airplane has other causes.
I also predicted that they will let it fade away in time. Eventually, truth will pop up. But than the responsables will be removed/dead/gone already.

small detail: China is flexing its muscles directly towards the USA in the South Chinese sea very recently again.

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