Charleroi Airport (CRL) latest news 2012

[flymd11]

Ryanair to Montenegro

Flights starting in June?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-23/ryanair-to-open-montenegro-flights-in-4-year-contract-with-state.html

http://www.goedkoopvliegenclub.nl/nieuws.html

Not happening because the agreement with Montenegro wasn't good enough (if there ever was one).

[flymd11]

If you are on Moneybooker : there is a problem with Moneybooker-Ryanair at the moment, it does not work anymore.
I've received a folder advertising the new Bpaid Mastercard in the mail today, the offer looks good. However, there have been rumours that Ryanair would end their "no fee" policy for Mastercard Prepaid holders like they did for the Visa Electron not so long ago, so the future will tell...

I would expect Ryanair to launch the Cash Passport in Belgium soon.

[crlhub]

Charleroi : 3e meilleur aéroport « low cost » au monde.

http://www.lesoir.be/regions/hainaut/20 ... 910690.php

[sn26567]

Charleroi : 3e meilleur aéroport « low cost » au monde.

http://www.lesoir.be/regions/hainaut/20 ... 910690.php

... and Brussels Airport 69th airport overall.

[crlhub]

« Charleroi peut accueillir presque tous les vols de Zaventem »

http://www.lesoir.be/actualite/belgique ... 911728.php

[airazurxtror]

The minister André Antoine repeated his ambition to make the airport of Charleroi airport a national and even international airport. Based on a study by Boeing and Airbus in 2011, it appears that the current 2,550 m runway would allow the inclusion of almost all flights from Brussels National, even without making it to 2,950 m, the limit set by regional policy statement.

Antoine reiterated his invitation to Brussels Airlines. "They are welcome at Charleroi," he said - reminding that the Walloon Region had invested in the capital of the airline after the bankruptcy of Sabena.

[Charlie Roy]

Old news, but a nice route map illustration.
If (BIG IF) Ryanair can strike a deal with Lisbon, these are the routes they have in mind - including Charleroi, Eindhoven, Groningen, Beauvais, Weeze and Cologne:

A proposta Ryanair para base de Lisboa. 4 milhões de passageiros, 8 aviões, 40 rotas, 4 mil empregos. | Low Cost Portugal

[crlhub]

Update on the train station project(in French):

http://www.lavenir.net/article/detail.a ... 4_00154622

[Acid-drop]

Thanks god !
CRL needs that train station !

[liege-bierset]

Underground station budget: 650 M out of a total allocation of 800M EUR. Magnette is a dreamer or a liar (probably both).
..."Quand les poules auront des dents" (When pigs can fly)

[crlhub]

I think that a better solution would be to use the existing train station called 'Luttre'(which may be renamed Charleroi airport).This stop on the Antwerp-Brussels-Charleroi South line,is not very far from the airport.One same platform super shuttle bus transfert with a small new portion of the existing freeway Brussels-Charleroi,would be much less expensive and would provide a frequent and fast train+bus connection,without having to reach down Charleroi South station,then connect to the TEC bus station and then to the apt,which means at least between 30 and 40 minutes saved.A combi train+super shuttle bus would be available from any Belgian station at a very interesting cost.
There are two Brussels-Luttre-Charleroi South trains/hour(off peak,up to 6 at peak times).We could increase the frequency to up to 3/hour for exemple.It would also be interesting for all the people from the Nivelles/Waterloo/Braine/BW areas.Same in the other way from Charleroi South to Luttre+shuttle (connections from Lille Liège sncb line possible).
It is only a 15 minutes + bus trip.
The costs would be between 100 and 175 millions euros.No new station would be needed,only a good upgrade of the existing Luttre one.
A train station for an airport with a maximum pax target of let's say 8 or 10 millions(2020?),doest not need that facility which will be very expensive to build and never making any money.
Eventhough it could also be used by many thousends of people working in the airport area(caterpilar,aéropôle,ulb university etc).

[convair]

it's good to see some commomsense expressed here without chauvinistic attitude! Well done Crlhub!

[Airbus330lover]

Same with the station of Fleurus. Direct connection with Namur, Ottignies and Brussels

[crlhub]

Yes but I'm not sure that the Fleurus/LLN Ottignies/Namur line is electrified between Charleroi and Ottignies.
Frequencies are once/hour,and a lot of stops.I do prefer the above Luttre option because it is directly connected with Antwerp/Mechelen/Brussels/Braine/Nivelles etc...more potential.
Or wy not both at a later stage?

[Airbus330lover]

Yes but I'm not sure that the Fleurus/LLN Ottignies/Namur line is electrified between Charleroi and Ottignies.
Frequencies are once/hour,and a lot of stops.I do prefer the above Luttre option because it is directly connected with Antwerp/Mechelen/Brussels/Braine/Nivelles etc...more potential.
Or wy not both at a later stage?

Is electrified, and 1 train/hour.
Easier to improve the frequencies.
Direct connection possible (no road but you can find the old Gosselies railline)
The tunnel under the highway is constructed

[Desert Rat]

Does anyone has a map like the one above but with CRL?

[flymd11]

I think that a better solution would be to use the existing train station called 'Luttre'(which may be renamed Charleroi airport).This stop on the Antwerp-Brussels-Charleroi South line,is not very far from the airport.One same platform super shuttle bus transfert with a small new portion of the existing freeway Brussels-Charleroi,would be much less expensive and would provide a frequent and fast train+bus connection,without having to reach down Charleroi South station,then connect to the TEC bus station and then to the apt,which means at least between 30 and 40 minutes saved.A combi train+super shuttle bus would be available from any Belgian station at a very interesting cost.
There are two Brussels-Luttre-Charleroi South trains/hour(off peak,up to 6 at peak times).We could increase the frequency to up to 3/hour for exemple.It would also be interesting for all the people from the Nivelles/Waterloo/Braine/BW areas.Same in the other way from Charleroi South to Luttre+shuttle (connections from Lille Liège sncb line possible).
It is only a 15 minutes + bus trip.
The costs would be between 100 and 175 millions euros.No new station would be needed,only a good upgrade of the existing Luttre one.
A train station for an airport with a maximum pax target of let's say 8 or 10 millions(2020?),doest not need that facility which will be very expensive to build and never making any money.
Eventhough it could also be used by many thousends of people working in the airport area(caterpilar,aéropôle,ulb university etc).

I don't think a railway station for a 8-10 mppa airport is an unreasonable proposal. There are plenty airports in Europe with far fewer passengers and very well served railway stations. At the same time, I think the Luttre + quick shuttle is a great idea in the short- to medium-term at least (of course that will end up being medium to long-term). It is just a 35 minute train journey from Luttre to Brussels Midi.

Btw a new 1km road connection will be built between the R3 (Charleroi Ring) and the Aéropole (and terminal I hope!). Scheduled to open in 2013:
http://www.sudinfo.be/410414/article/re ... -gosselies

At a cost of €2.6million, it sounds like something pretty modest and not requiring any large scale work.

[airazurxtror]

From 30 May, all Wizzair flights to Budapest (thus also those from CRL) will be to T2 (like Ryanair).

We would like to announce that Wizz Air will move all its operation from Budapest Terminal 1 to Terminal 2 effective from 30 May 2012.

[crlhub]

April 2012: 591 930.+17% versus 504 030 pax in 04/2011.

http://www.tourmag.com/Bruxelles-Sud-Ch ... 51734.html

[crlhub]

It will be either the 'line 5' of the Métro OR the rail station at the Airport.The Green party votes for the métro which will have the biggest impact on the local population.The airport train station would mainly be for 'out of town' people.The cost to finish the line 5 of the métro is only near 50 millions and can be achieved in two years as 70 pct of the line is already existing but abandonned.

http://www.lavenir.net/article/detail.a ... tcode=6000

http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C3%A9tro ... _Charleroi