January 2016 statistics for SN

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January 2016 statistics for SN

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No figures yet?

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convair wrote:No figures yet?
Nope! And it is strange that OS published their figures a coupole of days ago, together with the figures of the whole LG Group (without SN which is not yet consolidated), but LH itself didn't issue a press release yet.
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convair wrote:No figures yet?
Maybe they are very bad :cry: I hope not.

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nordikcam wrote:Maybe they are very bad :cry: I hope not.
I very much doubt it. BRU reported strong growth figures for January (+7.5%), and in their press release they literally say:
Brussels Airlines in particular carried more passengers in comparison with the previous January
...indicating SN was a major driver of the growth. That says to me we can expect SN to have grown by 10% or more.

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sn26567 wrote:
convair wrote:No figures yet?
Nope! And it is strange that OS published their figures a coupole of days ago, together with the figures of the whole LG Group (without SN which is not yet consolidated), but LH itself didn't issue a press release yet.
PR in crocus vakantie?

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convair wrote:No figures yet?
No news ?

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Indeed strange, but I did not see any news from LH either, in CAPA for example ... (only indirectly via the figures provided by OS - strange that they do it on behalf of the whole group) ...

Maybe they will organise one press-conference to make announcements on the financial results for 2015, the figures so far for 2016 and the 10th A330?

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From De Standaard, also luchtvaartnieuws.nl

SN January 16

466.310 PAX i.e. +8,5% vs 01.2015

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I'm in LHR right now. I'll post all the figures when I get home tomorrow.
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A very impressive improvement of the load factor!

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8,3% increase where 6,3% on european flights .... How in Gods name does that lead to 22,3% on Africa? ;)

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sean1982 wrote:8,3% increase where 6,3% on european flights .... How in Gods name does that lead to 22,3% on Africa? ;)
Looks logic to me...!
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Stij wrote:A very impressive improvement of the load factor!

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Stij
Caused by a DECREASE of capacity. SN might be the only European carrier decreasing capacity the past year with oil-prices plummeting. Pretty weird imo :?

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Jetter wrote:
Stij wrote:A very impressive improvement of the load factor!

Cheers,

Stij
Caused by a DECREASE of capacity. SN might be the only European carrier decreasing capacity the past year with oil-prices plummeting. Pretty weird imo :?
If the number of pax increases by 8.5% and the LF only by 7.8%, it means that the number of pax increased faster than the capacity. But the capacity has indeed slightly INcreased!

And why should SN increase the capacity when the LF is still lower than that of its main competitors?
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sn26567 wrote:But the capacity has indeed slightly INcreased!
Available seat-kilometres (m ASK) 1098,43 1100,74 – 0.2

Looks like a decrease to me ;)
And why should SN increase the capacity when the LF is still lower than that of its main competitors?
Fair point. But if that is the best option I expected that to happen in the years before when the load factor was even lower and oil way higher. To decrease capacity when loads are up 8% and oil is very low seems weird timing to me.

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Impressive load factor improvement indeed on the back of a huge increase in the number of passengers flown (+8.5%) vs. a capacity offer which remained as good as steady (-.2%).

What is also interesting to note is that:

1- they outgrew BRU as a whole once again in JAN, so they keep taking back market share!

2- they grew a lot more in JAN this year than in JAN last year (then it was just +4.6%).

Of course it's just a single month so far, but it if this phenomenon gets confirmed for FEB as well, it becomes an early trend and it could very well mean they are set for an even more spectacular annual growth rate in 2016 than the one posted in 2015.

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Is there any particular reason why the figures came out so late???
I had already given up the hope the still see them.

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Jetter wrote:
Available seat-kilometres (m ASK) 1098,43 1100,74 – 0.2

Looks like a decrease to me ;)
Well you talk about ASK, so seat x km.

Let's say you fly to ACC instead of NBO with the same bird. "S" remains the same but "K" is reduced (by 23% per great circle distance, thank you GC Map).
So yes ASK will be lower but you can still carry the same number of butts. I don't see this is a decrease in "capacity".

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sean1982 wrote:8,3% increase where 6,3% on european flights .... How in Gods name does that lead to 22,3% on Africa? ;)
What's so strange about it, if I may ask?

You are wrongfully assuming volumetric equality between European and African flights, but that is clearly not the case. If they'd have as much African capacity as they have European one, then yes, you'd be able to linearly add both segments up, but clearly such isn't the case.

Allow me to make an interesting observation, if I may?
From the above figures, it can be derived Africa makes up roughly about 1/10th of their total business volume only. Quite important indeed, but not the main chunk of it either, which explains to great extends why they are so aggressively defending their European network (and with quite some success, going by the figures): it's clearly not just to feed their intercontinental flights like one often reads here; it really serves a market of itself.

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Re: January 2016 statistics for SN

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Homo Aeroportus wrote:
Jetter wrote:
Available seat-kilometres (m ASK) 1098,43 1100,74 – 0.2

Looks like a decrease to me ;)
Well you talk about ASK, so seat x km.

Let's say you fly to ACC instead of NBO with the same bird. "S" remains the same but "K" is reduced (by 23% per great circle distance, thank you GC Map).
So yes ASK will be lower but you can still carry the same number of butts. I don't see this is a decrease in "capacity".

H.A.
Calculating backwards for a minute to verify this remark:

Minus 27% x 5/7 = 19% less kms flown with 1 A330, of which they have 8, so that's minus 2.4% for the fleet.
I just pointed out Africa represents about 1/10th of their total traffic volume, so -2.4% : 10 = 0.24% less.
They have posted an ASK of minus .2%, so there you have it. Almost spot on even!
No capacity reduction whatsoever, just the effect the swap of an African destination has on the ASK figures.

Well done, H.A.

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