Brussels 21/07/2018 - Belgian National Day

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Brussels 21/07/2018 - Belgian National Day

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Does anyone know about flight schedules of overflights during the National Day celebrations on next Saturday?

Just some minutes ago, several aircraft overflew the Schuman area, flying at a low altitude. I might have missed some jets (F-16?) - but I heard them -, saw a small trainer and a pair of prop airplanes, three or four helicopters of different sizes plus a low pass by the Air Force A321. All were coming from WNW and flying OSO. It was pretty impressive. Unfortunately I had no camera with me in the office...
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Re: Brussels 21/07/2018 - Belgian National Day

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The planes/helicopters will overflow the Royal Palace around 16h20.
List of participants:

7 Alpha-jet
4 F-16 2 Wing
4 F-16 10 Wing
4 Marchetti
4 Agusta
1 Sea King – 1 NH90 TTH – 1 NH90 NFH – 1 Alouette III
1 Xingu (FR)
3 C-130
1 Embraer + 1 Falcon
1 A321

I don't know exactly from where and to where they'll come from/will go before and after the passage at the Royal Palace. Someone maybe has a more detailed list?

I also saw 1 Embraer, 1 C-130 and the A321 while practicing. Unfortunately I didn't had my tele-lens with me:

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Previous years it was all announced per NOTAM?

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jan_olieslagers wrote: 17 Jul 2018, 19:53 Previous years it was all announced per NOTAM?
Sounds obvious for doing that every year

I remember a small Open Door in 2009 at EBBE: http://www.sbap.be/events/2009/ebbeod20 ... od2009.htm

But I don't take it that's every year. Then all a/c departed there (and most if not all also returned there (mind you, they all landed save, if they did anywhere else ;) )
My question (after all) is did the BAF (in the passed years) formate the airdefilé from different places or do they all leave from one base (let's say like the NATO-choppers did recently)? Gives you an idea id it's worthwhile for going for some t/o or rtb, or not......
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I seem to remember the formation was built as it flew, planes joining from their base as the formation passed near. A couple of years ago it was published here in detail. The circuit would be something like Florennes-Beauvechain -Kleine Brogel-somewhere in the west to pick up the helicopters - Brussels.

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Ah, here it is, straight form the official info at belgocontrol.be:
belgocontrol wrote: B3509/18
4 of 6ACFT FROM EBMB TO HEIST O/D BERG PSN 510427N 0044228E- WILLEBROEK
PSN 510402N 0042033E - MIDDELBURG PSN 511435N 0032355E - RUISELEDE
PSN 510304N 0032447E- IP AALST 505508N 0040153E - BRUSSELS CITY PSN
505022N 0042141E. -PROPELLOR ACFT FROM EBBE TO BETEKOM PSN 505840N
0044940E - HEIST O/D BERG - WILLEBROEK - MAGRET PSN 510356N 0035250E
- GIJZENZELE PSN 505829N 0034959E - IP AALST - BRUSSELS CITY
+ OR VIA SOUTHERN TRACK: -JETS FROM EBBL, EBBE, EBFS TO GEMBLOUX PSN
503418N 0044151E- ENGHIEN PSN 504157N 0040228E - DESSELGEM PSN
505322N 0032038E - RUISELEDE - IP AALST - BRUSSELS CITY
-TRANSPORT ACFT FROM EBMB TO GEMBLOUX - NIVELLES PSN 503510N
0041818E - ENGHIEN - DESSELGEM - RUISELEDE - IP AALST - BRUSSELS CITY
+ HELI FROM EBFN TO RUISELEDE - IP AALST - BRUSSELS CITY
+ HELI FROM EBBE TO GASTUCHE PSN 504338N 0043826E - ENGHIEN - NINOVE
PSN 504952N 0035816E - IP AALST - BRUSSELS CITY
+ AFTER BRUSSELS CITY, ALL FORMATIONS WILL CONTINUE VIA EBBE BEFORE
REJOINING HOMEBASES
+ REHEARSALS ON JUL 09 17 AND 18 SAME ROUTINGS, SAME ALTITUDES
Lower limit: 500FT AMSL Upper limit: 2000FT AMSL

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Re: Brussels 21/07/2018 - Belgian National Day

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From your experience from previous years: which are good spots to take pictures of the aircraft flying over Brussels?
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Not an easy question to answer, there's many factors (equipment? skill? ambitions?) and even if you tell me what they are for you I couldn't judge them, being a poor photographer with only middle-of-the-road equipment. Photographing flying aircraft from the ground is tricky business anyway; quailty and quantity of sunlight an important factor.

But since you ask for my experience: last year I was - rather accidentally* - walking the Berlaymont square when they came along. I think I reported here, at the time. They were flying West to East in two columns, one over the Wetstraat which was glorious to see, the other over the Belliardstraat or perhaps even more southerly, I could only hear those. Perhaps possibly misschien peut-être vielleicht the Cinquantenaire park would offer better opportunities, I cannot be sure. You certainly want to be high, as high as possible. If you have the right connections, you might be able to gain access to a high level in one of the office buildings in the quarter?

*I worked in the Justus Lipsius building at the time, and was walking to the train station to get home after work

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Thanks - I use think of myself as being some kind of planespotter, so I usually use a slightly bigger equipment than mobile phone camera and am vaguely accustomed to the concept of sunlight and shadows. ;)

But the information that they were flying along the Wetstraat (or to the south of it) is indeed a useful information, thanks for it! (Cinquantanaire seems to be doubtful because maybe talvez kan wees магадгүй the direction of sunlight would be a wee bit coming from the wrong direction).
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Spit OO-XVI is flying around Beauvechain

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From EBMB:

C130 CH09
E135 CE01
F900 CD01
A321 CS-TRJ

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Unfortunately, that was a sunshine-free performance... the formations were impressive though, especially the F-16s displaying a huge "5" to salute the 5th anniversary of the King.
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Pictures of the fly-by by Martin Gillet: https://www.facebook.com/martin.gillet/ ... 802&type=3

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The coverage of the parade by VRT was catastrophic: they managed to completely miss the helicopters! (And, out of topic, for the ground parade: going constantly back and forth between the groups caused utter confusion).
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