F16 crashed near Kleine Brogel

[Boeing767copilot]

Kleine Brogel: F16 crashed near Airfield Klein Brogel
Anybody with more news?

[Boeing767copilot]

PEER - Op het militaire domein in Peer is donderdagmiddag een F-16 gevechtsvliegtuig neergestort. De piloot is ongedeerd.

source: Het Nieuwsblad

[EBKT]

More information in Dutch on: http://www.hbvl.be/nieuws/binnenland/ai ... gel-2.aspx

The article mentions that the crash happened this afternoon after 15 o'clock. The pilot could survive himself by using his ejector seat. The pilot has been found about one hour later in a tree. The F16 crashed about 3à4 kms from the airport, just outside the military domain. The pilot does not belong to the armed standby team which is always ready to intercept. The "rampenplan" of the community is activated and neighbours needs to close windows for the smoke.

[stratofreighter]

More updates through
http://forum.scramble.nl/viewtopic.php?f=48&t=87986 .

Also this: http://www.kbspotting.be/phpBB3/viewtop ... =49&t=9824 .

[regi]

It is the 34th BAF F-16 that crashed, according an article. ( from the 160 ordered jets )
Imagine in a old fashioned open war situation , without necesarry maintenance, war damage, intensive use, I guess the amount would quickly rise to staggering figures!

[tsv]

It is the 34th BAF F-16 that crashed, according an article. ( from the 160 ordered jets )
Imagine in a old fashioned open war situation , without necesarry maintenance, war damage, intensive use, I guess the amount would quickly rise to staggering figures!

Yeah pretty dodgy aircraft the F-16. Peace times is definitely it's friend.

[stratofreighter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KVnoDFLgAE

[regi]

It is the 34th BAF F-16 that crashed, according an article. ( from the 160 ordered jets )
Imagine in a old fashioned open war situation , without necesarry maintenance, war damage, intensive use, I guess the amount would quickly rise to staggering figures!

Yeah pretty dodgy aircraft the F-16. Peace times is definitely it's friend.

But compared to what?
As if Russian birds don't fall out of the sky?

Some time ago, I posted here a simple message how to get rid off the airforce (of Lybia I think): let them scramble several times, and after a week they are out of spareparts.
War of attrition.

[galaxy]

What to say about the bad reputation of the Starfighter F-104 ,especially in Germany in the sixties and seventies,while at the same time Spanish airforce lost not a single one of it's F-104.

' In Luftwaffe service, the F-104G got a bad reputation because of the large number of accidents, many of them resulting in fatalities. Intensive flying operations with the Starfighter did not start in Germany until 1961, when only two crashes took place. There were seven crashes in 1962, 12 in 1964, and 28 in 1965, or more than two a month. By mid-1966, 61 German Starfighters had crashed, with a loss of 35 pilots. At the height of the crisis, the Starfighter accident rate peaked at 139 per 100,000 flying hours. As a result, the German press went into a feeding frenzy and the F-104G was given derogatory nicknames such as the "Flying Coffin" or the "Widowmaker", which brings to mind all of the flak that surrounded the Martin B-26 Marauder during World War 2. One running joke at the time was that if you waited long enough, just about every square mile of Germany would have a Starfighter crash onto it. The press left many people with the impression that there was something intrinsically wrong with the F-104G, that it was just too difficult an airplane to fly for the new and relatively inexperienced Luftwaffe pilots. The high loss rate generated a flurry of criticism of the Bonn government, some critics claiming that the entire Starfighter program had been politically-motivated and should be cancelled outright.

During its period of service with the German armed forces, about 270 German Starfighters were lost in accidents, just under 30 percent of the total force. About 110 pilots were killed. However, the attrition rate in German service was not all that much greater than that of the F-104 in service with several other air forces, including the United States Air Force. Canada had the unenviable record of losing over 50 percent of its 200 single-seat CF-104s in flying accidents. The loss rate of Luftwaffe Starfighters was not all that extraordinary, since the Luftwaffe had suffered a 36 percent attrition rate with the Republic F-84F Thunderstreak, the Starfighter's immediate predecessor. There was nothing intrinsically dangerous about the Starfighter, since the Royal Norwegian Air Force operating identical F-104Gs suffered only six losses in 56,000 flying hours, and the Spanish Air Force lost not a single one of its Starfighters to accidents.
'
Read more :
http://www.joebaugher.com/usaf_fighters/f104_17.html